Annoyed by dirt bikers?

   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #121  
I never understood why people without a place to ride buy them in the first place. I didn't pay $$$$$$ for my land and yearly $$ in property taxes so it can be someone else's playground to tear up. No, you don't have the right to trespass on my private property. A right of way is a contract between the property owner and a utility company, for the utility to use, not for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to use and abuse. If you want to ride that bad, buy your own land.
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #122  
buckeyefarmer,

I'm in 100% agreement with your post. And to add to that - there are three dedicated ATV/dirt bike/UTV parks within the city limits that they can use here. These folks have absolutely no justification to tear up private property.
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #123  
Just went back and read the original post. It's unclear from the two articles if the bikers were trespassing or not. The article did state he was "riding his dirt bike on a trail near the Jones Creek off-road-vehicle area in the Yacolt Burn State Forest." Just curious, was he trespassing or not?

I couldn't find anywhere in any of the links where it said the bikers were actually trespassing. Only the guy with the gun telling them they were trespassing. Doesn't mean its true. ;)
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #124  
Still remember when Dad found a full pickup truck load full of every imaginable kind of trash dumped down a ravine on our property... he called the police when he found mail with address labels... officer came out and said the letters were not enough... to add insult to injury... officer said was had to remove the trash or we would be cited... since it was near a seasonal creek...

It's not hard to understand why landowners having been burned once are the way they are...

When the land to our west was subdivided, the property line was cleared so that a pickup truck could drive down the line. When I saw that the the line was cleared, it intersects our property line at a right angle, I walked the line to see what was happening on the parcel. The parcel had been subdivided in multiple lots, which we knew was happening, but they had also created a nice gravel road. The line had been cleared for a short time but someone had alread driven either truck or tractor down the line and dumped trash. :mad::mad::mad: When I got out to the road someone had dumped not one, but two, heavy hydraulic jacks that had been bent. I think they were 4 tons or there about.

What is so stupid about this trash dumping, is that people can take their trash to the collection center for NO extra charges. The center is paid for with property tax so anyone living in the county has access! These idiots spent more time dumping trash than going to the dump. There are only two grocery stores in town and both are within a thousand feet or so of the collection center. They have to go to those stores and it would have taken them only a few minutes to drop off the trash legally. They spent more time driving off trail than it would have taken them to go to the dump :rolleyes: MORONS.

I keep our land posted for privacy, lower liability and to try to prevent dumping. I was working in the garden one spring and two idiots on ATV's went down that property line and onto our property. They went right by a no trespass sign that there was no chance to miss. I am pretty sure these were the people who did the dumping. I yelled at them and they left. Two different idiots used that same cleared property line to trespass and "hunt" on our land. The ^&*((&@ were just shooting into squirrel nests. :mad::mad::mad: They were also shooting in the direction of our house and/or neighbors. :mad::mad::mad: I had been working the yard and my kids were playing in the yard when these morons where shooting. These idiots had ignored the same sign and could see the house but that did not stopped them. They were also shooting at the neighbors houses they could not see. We had a one way conversation and they have not been back. They did try that "I have been hunting this land with my daddy for years." lie and I called them on that quick and shut them up.

Thankfully, houses were finally built on those lots which has controlled that access for trespass.

We have had people dump used kitty litter on our place a couple of times. :confused3: I think/hope it was kids that were supposed to go to the dump but who knows. At least that degrades quickly. A few years ago some $%^&*() dumped a trash bag by tossing into the woods near our gate. I heard the guy drive up to our gate on a Friday, I think he was a contractor working a nearby house, but I did not think anything of it since this happens from time to time. Monday, I noticed the trash in the woods! :mad::mad::mad: It was pouring down rain and I was going to have to cut a trail to get to the trash so I had to leave it there. :mad::mad::mad: It was Monday, and Monday is trash day, so I was taking a load of trash to take to the collection center. If the idiot had left the trash by the gate it would have been easy. Instead it took 3-4 days before it stopped raining and I had time to get the trash. Nice and smelly then. I really wanted to go through the trash and take it back to his house....

A few weeks later the same idiot walked a good 50 feet off the road and dumped trash on someone else's land. :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Liability is a huge problem and should not be ignored. Posting one's land minimizes liability since a trespasser is committing an illegal act. I remember CowBoyDocs story from years ago about the landowner in SC, who had people ride horses on to their land. A horse stepped into a stump hole, threw the rider who got hurt and thed sued the land owner. Another one was a girl, lets call her Jane, who invites her friend Sue to come over to ride a horse. Sue bring her brother Joe. When Sue gets on the horse, Joe thinks it will be funny to hit the horse in the rear with a hat. The horse reared up, threw Joe's sister Sue who gets seriously hurt. Sue's parents sue Jane's parents even though Joe caused the accident.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #125  
I couldn't find anywhere in any of the links where it said the bikers were actually trespassing. Only the guy with the gun telling them they were trespassing. Doesn't mean its true. ;)

I was thinking the same thing.

Kinda think there are a lot of guys who would like to wave a gun around and scare people, just looking for a reason. Maybe he's been reading forums where a few members advised him to do so. A good reason NOT to encourage people who are on the edge, even if it makes good 'postin'. Forums can mess with peoples judgement, especially if it's their only community.

Sue's parents sue Jane's parents even though Joe caused the accident.

Remember that some people know lawyering well because that's how they get their money.
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #126  
As a horse owner I don't worry too much about being sued. Va has an equine law that says if you didn't go out of your way to cause the accident then your not at fault. If I step in a stump hole its on me. But at my place I have to be vigilant about boarders, leasers and visitors. Every peice of tack that I lend out is checked in front of the person using it. I have to think about which horse suits who. If I put someone on a horse that I know will rear and they get hurt then I'm at fault. Everybody that comes on my property I ask to sign a waiver. If they refuse I ask they leave. ( I have even been through this with the mailman) Then I make a documentation in a book I keep. Thankfully it's a thin book. I have a small nice looking sign 100'from the road that says Posted Boarders and Guests only. I do keep insurance through Farm Bureau just in case.
Dan was that lawsuit thrown out or did Janes parents suffer?
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #127  
Want to detail the year and location of that incident? This the one?

From the story: "An Upper Keys man died July 4 in North Carolina the day after riding an all-terrain vehicle into a metal cable that someone slung across a path between two trees. But the Swain County (N.C.) Sheriff's Office said it is not investigating despite the possibility of malicious circumstances surrounding the man's death."

Surprisingly, that is a different incident. The one I am thinking of was maybe 5-10 years ago in a different part of the state.

Wow. Just Googled and found quite a few incidents with ATVs and cables. In the ones I read, all of the ATV riders were trespassing. The area I am thinking about has had two ATV/Cable incidents, one in 2002 and the other in 2011. Both very similar though the 2002 incident is the one I was thinking about. The landowner put up the cable to keep the ATV's off his land after repeated trespasses.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #128  
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Dan was that lawsuit thrown out or did Janes parents suffer?

I don't know. Not sure if the cases had been settled when the incidents were mentioned.

NC has a similar Equine law that tries to limit liability. Years ago, the NC Extension office had a document on limiting landowner liability. The bottom line of it was to post your land and keep people off.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Annoyed by dirt bikers? #129  
This is where dirt bikes should be used...... :D:D:D


I wonder how long the bike worked after that ride....

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan
 

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