Ford 1920 will not go into gear

[Soundguy]

Remember to wedge your front axle for safety. A floor jack and concrete makes a good rollback for the rear

 

[MOTractor]

The tractor has been split. I have to say i was surprised at how uneventful it was. I swear that it held 20 gallons of fluid

 

[MOTractor]

I have to admit I was a bit disappointed in what I did not find. I was hoping to split it apart and go WOW that is bad, but I did not get to that, then again this is a first for me.:laughing:

The pilot bearing is shot, very rough when you spin it. There is a pic of the release bearing carrier below, is it supposed to have those grooves in it? They match up to the fork at rear of the bell housing.

Any thoughts?

 

[Fawken]

Nice work getting it split. Luckily you didn't have a sub frame. I really don't see anything there worn to the point where it wouldn't still work. Pics of the clutch fingers and throw-out bearing might help.

 

[MOTractor]

Here are pics of the release bearing and clutch fingers

 

[GreenYellow]

I don't see anything that looks terribly worn. Clearly, it's not brand new, but it doesn't too bad (to me).
I don't claim to be a tractor mechanic. Maybe someone with more experience can identify something in the photos.

What's puzzling is, there are very few things that can cause your original problem.
Hopefully someone can offer something...

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[jimmysisson]

Your driven disk looks to have rusty splines, so it's possible the disc isn't moving away from the flywheel when the clutch is released, though i doubt that would move the tractor.
However, if the pilot bearing is seized, it will turn the transmission input shaft whenever the motor is running. It's your call whether to replace the rest of the clutch parts while you have it apart, but if your pilot bearing is sticky it could be the culprit. I wouldn't think it could drive the tractor against the brakes, but there are pretty low gears in the tranny. Sound Guy nailed it I think. The rest of the clutch looks ok to me, too.
Good luck, Jim

 

[Fawken]

Looks good to me. Linkage maybe?

 

[MOTractor]

Your driven disk looks to have rusty splines, so it's possible the disc isn't moving away from the flywheel when the clutch is released, though i doubt that would move the tractor.
However, if the pilot bearing is seized, it will turn the transmission input shaft whenever the motor is running. It's your call whether to replace the rest of the clutch parts while you have it apart, but if your pilot bearing is sticky it could be the culprit. I wouldn't think it could drive the tractor against the brakes, but there are pretty low gears in the tranny. Sound Guy nailed it I think. The rest of the clutch looks ok to me, too.
Good luck, Jim

The pilot bearing was not seized but it was very very rough. I think I will replace the clutch just to make sure since it is already apart. Is it possible that the disc that is still inside the clutch is stuck? Or is that the PTO clutch disc?

 

[MOTractor]

Looks good to me. Linkage maybe?

The external linkage that I can see beside the steering column? Or internal? If internal, under the top plate? I think the steering assembly is only held on by 6 bolts - small change compared to what I have already taken apart