Backhoe Strong?

[4570Man]

To tell the truth, if I had to do it over, I'd cosider something more in line with the now discontinued John Deere 110TLB. Although I understand they are prone to cracked bellhousings too.

I would love to have a JD 110. They bring about 25,000 maybe 30,009 if you want a newer model. Lots of guys have more money in a less capable machine.

 

[cabin kioti]

I have a CK30 with a 23/75bh. I have never had a problem and through the years have dug out some pretty big stumps. What I have found that always have the out riggers on the ground bucket down and rear tires on the ground with brakes locked. The ck is a 2006 and the bh has preformed excellent. If you try to move the machine with the backhoe instead of relocating it with the tractor you could put a lot of strain on the tractor that could cause some problems.

 

[Carl_NH]

I would love to have a JD 110. They bring about 25,000 maybe 30,009 if you want a newer model. Lots of guys have more money in a less capable machine.

The Kubota L39 (GST) or L45 (HST) can be found for $25-35K and the L45 has slightly better specs than JD110TLB. Like the JD110 it takes time to find a good one that hasn't been abused or a rental. With the 110 being out of production now, that's a factor, but JD is great for parts and support.

 

[DK35vince]

I have a 2001 DK 35.
I've had a Rhino 85 (8 1/2' digging depth) backhoe I have been using on this tractor since 2003 with no problems.
The sub frame on my Rhino 85 comes off with the backhoe similar to the Kioti hoe.
Personally I think the 4 point type sub frames that stay bolted to the tractor when the backhoe comes off may give the tractor more support/strength.

 

[4570Man]

The Kubota L39 (GST) or L45 (HST) can be found for $25-35K and the L45 has slightly better specs than JD110TLB. Like the JD110 it takes time to find a good one that hasn't been abused or a rental. With the 110 being out of production now, that's a factor, but JD is great for parts and support.

The Kubota L45 would be a sweet machine. It has very similar specs as a JD 110, plus it is orange.

 

[IslandTractor]

I have a 2001 DK 35. I've had a Rhino 85 (8 1/2' digging depth) backhoe I have been using on this tractor since 2003 with no problems. The sub frame on my Rhino 85 comes off with the backhoe similar to the Kioti hoe. Personally I think the 4 point type sub frames that stay bolted to the tractor when the backhoe comes off may give the tractor more support/strength.

I had a Kioti KB2365 on my CK20 and the Woods on my DK. Both subframe a work fine but the Kioti type was a lot easier to hook up. It would take about 5 min to do the Kioti BH and it takes 15 or more to do the Woods. Nice 4 pt frame but zero slop in lining things up in all three dimensions simultaneously.

 

[DK35vince]

I had a Kioti KB2365 on my CK20 and the Woods on my DK. Both subframe a work fine but the Kioti type was a lot easier to hook up. It would take about 5 min to do the Kioti BH and it takes 15 or more to do the Woods. Nice 4 pt frame but zero slop in lining things up in all three dimensions simultaneously.

Do you feel the 4 point sub frame being bolted on gives any more support to the tractor, bell housing area, Etc ?

 

[IslandTractor]

Do you feel the 4 point sub frame being bolted on gives any more support to the tractor, bell housing area, Etc ?

Recall that the Kioti subframe has a mount under the PTO that is also bolted down. The tabs in front are also bolted.

I owned the tractors sequentially so never compared them directly. I certainly never thought the Kioti BH was anything but securely mounted though.

The Woods has the advantage of being a much smaller subframe so makes the BH easier to store. That is about the only practical advantage however.

 

[DK35vince]

Recall that the Kioti subframe has a mount under the PTO that is also bolted down. The tabs in front are also bolted.

I owned the tractors sequentially so never compared them directly. I certainly never thought the Kioti BH was anything but securely mounted though.

The Woods has the advantage of being a much smaller subframe so makes the BH easier to store. That is about the only practical advantage however.

I just assumed that the 4 point sub frame was heavy steel plate support bars that mounted to the rear end housing all the way up to engine mount area. But maybe I'm assuming all wrong and the sub frame doesn't bolt on that far forward on the tractor.

 

[IslandTractor]

I just assumed that the 4 point sub frame was heavy steel plate support bars that mounted to the rear end housing all the way up to engine mount area. But maybe I'm assuming all wrong and the sub frame doesn't bolt on that far forward on the tractor.

I'll try to remember to get photos next time I get down to the tractor. There is heavy metal plate that is well secured to the tractor but again the Kioti setup is no wimp either. I