Still seems awful silly to buy a brand new trailer to max it out. 14,000 x .10 tongue weight is 1,400. 15% is 2100 Most say 10-15% tongue weight. so 11,400 or 12,100 for a machine that weighs 12k without any accessories.
Tri Axle Trailers
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crazyal
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I have an old (77') 11 ton tri-axle. Never had a problem with it. About 15 years ago I bought it for $1k so I could move my backhoe around. At the time equipment haulers were hard to find and getting close to $100/hr starting from when they started their engine (before even hooking up to their trailer) to when they had the trailer unloaded and their engine off (usually estimated the time after the equipment was unloaded). That adds up quickly and since I had my Loadstar 1700 I bought the trailer. It has the axles that look like mobile home axles (but are not) and I haven't had any issues getting brake shoes for the trailer. I've never needed anything else. I did buy a couple mobile home tire/ wheels for spares just in case. Like others have said if you are turning hard it really puts a lot of side pressure on the tires. But the only tire issue I had was one that just like to leak at the bead very slowly. I would of been happy with a tandem but everyone I found was 5x the cost that could hold the weight. It's a deck-over but it's built like a tank. It has two 8" I-beams for the main structure. I couldn't answer if regular trailer tires would handle the side scuffing like the mobile home style tires. The mobile home style tires have extra thick rubber on the outside edges, several inches think, and don't have a flat profile on the tread.
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is this a one time thing? or planning to trailer mini ex a lot? if just a one time thing or a rare every few years... higher it out to haul it? cost of trailer, plus up keep, plus insurance, plus other... vs a couple hundred bucks each time you need to haul it...
looking at your signature of all your units, some skid steers, to ag size tractors. your ford 9700 = heaviest tractor / unit you have listed in signature. TractorData.com Ford 9700 tractor information
purely guessing you most likely getting or already to the point of having a semi truck / 18 wheeler. in the mix of vehicles. guessing some sort of grain trailer or some sort of dump trailer. so i am wondering about a trailer for the semi? cost a little more but? *shrugs*
the company that delivered the ford 555c TLB TractorData.com Ford 555 backhoe-loader tractor information weighs near 14K same as your ford 9700 and mini ex you looking to haul. used something like below diagram. little extra work to load / unload. but offered a very low load up point and kept everything low while on the road. to gain those few extra inches of height for what ever you are hauling (to get under bridges) i would imagine costs a bit more... but if you are hauling equipment for say landscape business or perhaps lake /pond building business... it might give you a few more options.
once you get equipment to site, it is not like you will be driving trailer all over rough ground while equipment is on the trailer? more likely once you get to site you will be unloading on flat level ground. and then driving the various equipment all over the place on un-even ground.... assuming even if it means unloading equipment on the road itself. using some road cones / markers. to unload stuff. due to site does not offer a good place to unload equipment.
looking at your signature of all your units, some skid steers, to ag size tractors. your ford 9700 = heaviest tractor / unit you have listed in signature. TractorData.com Ford 9700 tractor information
purely guessing you most likely getting or already to the point of having a semi truck / 18 wheeler. in the mix of vehicles. guessing some sort of grain trailer or some sort of dump trailer. so i am wondering about a trailer for the semi? cost a little more but? *shrugs*
the company that delivered the ford 555c TLB TractorData.com Ford 555 backhoe-loader tractor information weighs near 14K same as your ford 9700 and mini ex you looking to haul. used something like below diagram. little extra work to load / unload. but offered a very low load up point and kept everything low while on the road. to gain those few extra inches of height for what ever you are hauling (to get under bridges) i would imagine costs a bit more... but if you are hauling equipment for say landscape business or perhaps lake /pond building business... it might give you a few more options.
once you get equipment to site, it is not like you will be driving trailer all over rough ground while equipment is on the trailer? more likely once you get to site you will be unloading on flat level ground. and then driving the various equipment all over the place on un-even ground.... assuming even if it means unloading equipment on the road itself. using some road cones / markers. to unload stuff. due to site does not offer a good place to unload equipment.
I have 24k goosenecks now that will do it easily. I want a compact shorter lower trailer for quick trips from farm to farm that are able to turn into smaller drives on narrow roads. Hauling the mini from one farm to another or hauling the track loader real quick to different fields to do work in. It would be great to pull the track loader up on a tilt trailer to run it down the road without chaining to gather bales and load inlines quickly.
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I agree! I wouldn't want a trailer that was maxed out for my load.l but there is some more capacity that you weren't taking into account. But with 8k axles you wouldn't be as close to the edge.
I guess I would have been more helpful if I would have had a triaxle trailer.....
fordmantpw
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Reading some of the comments, along with the bolded section, leads me to believe that a triple axle would not be your best bet. I'm no expert, just putting 2 and 2 together.
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quick load / unload....
instead of a double drop trailer...
what about dolley setup. drive up to a set of wheels put bucket down to raise front / back of tracks off ground. and then kinda lean over on to the set of wheels. kinda like driving over a set of log mats when digging in muddy areas / lakes / ponds. but for trailering a track unit.
once above wheels are chain down around the tracks on one end. ya kinda drive it over to pull vehicle. and load up other end of unit.
sorry about being vague... only seen them in pictures. i know "CAT" or rather Caterpillar has them for a good amount of there track units. they basically remove the "frame work" between connection point of pull vehicle and tires on trailer. and just use the units own frame as a frame for trailer. and just use the units own hydraulics to lift / maneuver things. most likely you might find option for a "rail road wheel option" with the dolly or what ever they are called option.
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there are some custom / more specialized trailers.... for excavators... that have no decks per say. just frame work. exception a handful of metal plates. were tracks and buckets set down. cost reduced due to not needing deck. and more for quick deployment doing and overall shorter trailer within reason.
some wheels set in side the tracks, some wheels set on the outside of the track, and some are more of a deck over setup type of wheels.
most of the trailers i remember seeing are more of a T shape. were middle of track unit (weight wise) sets across top of the T were the tires are. and then the long tongue that goes to pull vehicle and were bucket rests on as well. basically allowing you to walk right up to the track unit on the trailer. without having to bend over or tossing chains / straps or get up on a deck. with tie does right there. no goofing around trying to run chains here or there and every were. no real need to mess with any sort of longer ramps / tilt deck.
*rubs chin* waiting for rain to stop so i can get internet back...
a boat trailer in essence = looks more like a specialized excavator trailer.
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i didn't really look up the skid steers you have (assuming you are calling them track loaders) they do make more specialized skid steer trailers. short length. not much of a deck. more of couple strips of metal to run the unit up on to. no wood per say on the trailers more or less pure metal. and no real complete deck on them. and the tongue going to pull vehicle more setup to handle, placing the bucket on the tongue itself.
instead of a double drop trailer...
what about dolley setup. drive up to a set of wheels put bucket down to raise front / back of tracks off ground. and then kinda lean over on to the set of wheels. kinda like driving over a set of log mats when digging in muddy areas / lakes / ponds. but for trailering a track unit.
once above wheels are chain down around the tracks on one end. ya kinda drive it over to pull vehicle. and load up other end of unit.
sorry about being vague... only seen them in pictures. i know "CAT" or rather Caterpillar has them for a good amount of there track units. they basically remove the "frame work" between connection point of pull vehicle and tires on trailer. and just use the units own frame as a frame for trailer. and just use the units own hydraulics to lift / maneuver things. most likely you might find option for a "rail road wheel option" with the dolly or what ever they are called option.
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there are some custom / more specialized trailers.... for excavators... that have no decks per say. just frame work. exception a handful of metal plates. were tracks and buckets set down. cost reduced due to not needing deck. and more for quick deployment doing and overall shorter trailer within reason.
some wheels set in side the tracks, some wheels set on the outside of the track, and some are more of a deck over setup type of wheels.
most of the trailers i remember seeing are more of a T shape. were middle of track unit (weight wise) sets across top of the T were the tires are. and then the long tongue that goes to pull vehicle and were bucket rests on as well. basically allowing you to walk right up to the track unit on the trailer. without having to bend over or tossing chains / straps or get up on a deck. with tie does right there. no goofing around trying to run chains here or there and every were. no real need to mess with any sort of longer ramps / tilt deck.
*rubs chin* waiting for rain to stop so i can get internet back...
a boat trailer in essence = looks more like a specialized excavator trailer.
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i didn't really look up the skid steers you have (assuming you are calling them track loaders) they do make more specialized skid steer trailers. short length. not much of a deck. more of couple strips of metal to run the unit up on to. no wood per say on the trailers more or less pure metal. and no real complete deck on them. and the tongue going to pull vehicle more setup to handle, placing the bucket on the tongue itself.
QRTRHRS
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What is the issue with a deck over trailer? Seeing no one come up with a low cost, light weight lift axle setup to make a tri-axle trailer "acceptable" in a tight squeeze, somewhere along the line you are going to have to compromise?
FWIW, in my humble opinion, depending on tongue weight as some have suggested, to haul heavier is compromising the safety of others but to each there own just don't take out one of me or mine.
FWIW, in my humble opinion, depending on tongue weight as some have suggested, to haul heavier is compromising the safety of others but to each there own just don't take out one of me or mine.
Even the low pro deckovers set high plus the ones I have are all 32-40'. Hauling 10 to 12,000 pound machines with air bags and 3500 and 450 dually trucks is hardly overloaded.
Some of the farms are spread out so loading on a tilt is quick and easy. Say one farm is a mile away it's easy to hop on a tilt and run it down than to load and chain on a deckover. Some of the drives are tight for a long trailer.