Mosin-Nagant hex receiver

[paulharvey]

I got a Mosin-Nagant, from a 1/2 uncle in law, that he threw in a roll off dumpster when cleaning out an old house. The barrel is ruined and the stock is done. The marking seem to say it's a Finnish M39 made by Sako (I think) and has a barrel made in occupied Belgium in 1942. So, this gun was made for the "Continuation War" when Finland invaded the USSR with Germany.

So, I would like to get it shootable, but.. the problem is all the barrels I'm seeing are in the $100+ range, and the right stock (Finnish M39) are $70+. Could I use a M91/30, M44, or other Mosin Stock? Will a Hex receiver fit a stock used with a round reciever? If I replace the barrel, odds of finding a Belgian barrel, for close to cheap are near zero; so...

Part of me all along has said just go buy a M91/30 for $200; but now that I know I have a 1 in 50,000 instead of a 1 in 15,000,000.

Edit: parts are expensive, I probably could sell trigger parts, and bolt for (according to ebay) around $50-75, and then sell reciever to someone really wanting to build a "hex"

 

[k0ua]

parts are expensive, I probably could sell trigger parts, and bolt for (according to ebay) around $50-75, and then sell reciever to someone really wanting to build a "hex"

That is what I would do with it. but up to you... sure would not have left it in the dumpster...

 

[RobertN]

~$170 for a barrel and stock, plus some for a gunsmith to mount barrel, headspace etc. That's really not bad.Would not be original, but could make a nice shooter.

I'd lean towards fixin it up.

 

[paulharvey]

That is what I would do with it. but up to you... sure would not have left it in the dumpster...

Well, what's so bad is someone tried to make the wooden stock into a pistol grip and hacksaw ed the barrel... I know they aren't Rare but it just feels wrong to destroy something like that "because i I thought it would look cool".

I'm thinking I may look around at some army navy shops and see if they have "take off" barrels or stocks for cheap. There's little to nothing online what I would call cheap.

Edit: I don't really want a poly aftermarket stock like a Arkangel or monti-carlo style. I am a fan of old rifles that look like they should or did

Re-edit: I would love to get a Kar-98 and a M91/30 as a wall display. If I ever get a Kar98 it probably will be a Yugo, which is fine by me. I may get an Arisaka that's rusting in grand mother in laws garage.

 

[Zerk]

I would consider it only because finnish. You can buy anothet one for $170. Priced have gone up some, but I wouldn't pay them. I think people that know what Mosins are would. There are millions of them. Cheap surplus gun.

I bought mine just to leave in garage, was 100. I didn't care what happened to it.

But then I read up them, and found them interesting.

I would put light layer of lock tite on sear screw. Other then that **** reliable.

Finns should be more accurate, then rest. If it has a good barrel. Sad he treated that way. I have wanted a finn, because finn, but not worth 3-400 to me. Though I do spend money I shouldn't at times

 

[Zerk]

Remember surplus ammo may be corrosive, so clean every time

 

[Zerk]

Finns did capture and resemble. But not all are russian. Many countries made them

 

[bcp]

Finns did capture and resemble. But not all are russian. Many countries made them

Including the US.

The American Mosin Nagants

Bruce

 

[k0ua]

Including the US.

The American Mosin Nagants

Bruce

I knew about the Remington manufacture, but I did not know about the Westinghouse.

 

[paulharvey]

All Mosin-Nagant receivers are Russian manufacture. The Sakos and others are captured Russian rifles rebarrelled, restocked and trigger tweaked by Finland.

Well I have no doubt they captured 100,000's, but they inherited huge numbers, they where a Grand Duchy of Imperial Russia until 1918. I swear I read they where manufactured by Sako, and at least one other company in Finland, but they could have remanned old recievers. I think Poland, and Romania also manufactured some M44's post war until the SKS and Ak47 became wide spread.

 

[paulharvey]

Mosin Nagant Rifle Model Identification Guide has a lot of details on markings, manufactures, ext.

 

[oldpilgrim]

Here's what it should look like...the one on top... a Finnish Sako. The bottom one is a M38:

The stock is special and unique to the M39 as is is very highly finished and finger jointed under the rear sight. The barrel is longer than the shorter M38 and the M44 below: The 38 and the 44 are basically the same gun, except the 44 has a bayonet.

and much shorter than the 91/30:

I can't tell you if a hex barrel would fit, I suspect it would. BUT scabbing together parts from different models would give you a gun with practically no value...you'd spend more time and money making it than you would ever get back on it if you ever tried to sell it.

You can buy 91/30 for little more than you'd spend to make your franken-gun.

 

[the old grind]

I wouldn't rush to replace a barrel without shooting it, since bore quality/condition usually affects cleaning routine more than accuracy. If the barrel is of legal length I'd touch up the crown and see what she'll do.

Recommend that you do NOT use mil-surp ammo as a benchmark of o'all shootability. For most any caliber what you'll find is surplus MG fodder or batch 'seconds'. Might want to spring for a box of Norma ammo, as it typically surprises MN owners compared to any mil-surp stuff.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I got a Mosin-Nagant, from a 1/2 uncle in law, that he threw in a roll off dumpster when cleaning out an old house. The barrel is ruined and the stock is done. The marking seem to say it's a Finnish M39 made by Sako (I think) and has a barrel made in occupied Belgium in 1942. So, this gun was made for the "Continuation War" when Finland invaded the USSR with Germany.

So, I would like to get it shootable, but.. the problem is all the barrels I'm seeing are in the $100+ range, and the right stock (Finnish M39) are $70+. Could I use a M91/30, M44, or other Mosin Stock? Will a Hex receiver fit a stock used with a round reciever? If I replace the barrel, odds of finding a Belgian barrel, for close to cheap are near zero; so...

Part of me all along has said just go buy a M91/30 for $200; but now that I know I have a 1 in 50,000 instead of a 1 in 15,000,000.

Edit: parts are expensive, I probably could sell trigger parts, and bolt for (according to ebay) around $50-75, and then sell reciever to someone really wanting to build a "hex"

Sounds like good tradin' material to me!

 

[oldpilgrim]

Sounds like good tradin' material to me!

yup..............

 

[RobertN]

I have read about "Obrez" modification to make a Mosin "pistol" of sorts. Depending on barrel length and overall length could be very illegal.

Obrez: The Russian Mosin Fireball Conversion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ_cAdufp_E

Well, what's so bad is someone tried to make the wooden stock into a pistol grip and hacksaw ed the barrel... I know they aren't Rare but it just feels wrong to destroy something like that "because i I thought it would look cool".

 

[Buggs67]

Sounds like good tradin' material to me!

Since the gun has already been Sporterized, value is out the window. I know 91/30s are getting expensive but a M38 or M44 makes a nice shooter and aren't too expensive. The 91/30 is a long gun.

I have 2 m91 one round (91/30) and one a hex receiver with Ministry markings dated 1926. As well as an early M44. I'd like a M38 if I see one around.

 

[the old grind]

Gotta love 'em.

Mosin Nagant Humor  AK vs. AR vs. Mosin Nagant

 

[k0ua]

Gotta love 'em.

Mosin Nagant HumorÂ* AK vs. AR vs. Mosin Nagant

Pretty good, I got a laugh or two there. They weren't kidding about bayoneting your enemy across the river with the Mosin. Man those old 91's look long, especially with mounted bayonet.

 

[paulharvey]

I've tracked down a local stock for $49, but I have yet to find a gunshop, army surplus, or sporting goods place that was even a single barrel. The stock should be pretty easy, seems a lot of people are getting Arkangel stocks, and selling the wood ones.