O my, I am comfused

[AxleHub]

He also talked about getting logs delivered and my friend who get's logs delivered doesn't get to choose size. Nikko's situation may be different.

I was not aware of these specialize SCUT products. In my world, SSQA grapples run from ~500 pounds on the low side to over 1000 pounds. I assumed there were some lighter ones for SCUTs but didn't realize they were that light. Thanks for the education.

I didn't realize SCUTs moved away from Cat 0. I looked at them back in 2005 and I thought they were all either Cat 0 or had Cat 1 with smaller than normal range of motion.

Greetings Glade,

You are correct. Originally Nikko said he previously had bought wood at his last home but his new house had woods he was going to clean up and use and now recently he is going to buy logs again. Blink twice and the story shifts

Yes the scut market is really hampered if users buy standard tractor/skidsteer implements. Far too often they are straight plain chinese steel. Heavy as heck and too limiting for smart scut use. The other day I walked up to a retail ssqa set of forks and tried to lift them. I'm not young but I regularly carry lots of weight and alm I could have done with those ssqa forks was maybe ver sliwly drag tjem somewhere. I'm guessing 225 pounds. Meanwhile my forks are heavy duty but weigh about 95 pounds if I use them on the 3pt with the hitch pins in . . On the fel with no pins its about 90.

The mini grapple I want is all high tensile steel. The regular high tensile grapples offered at the same vendor come in double or 2 feet wide choices at varing higher weights but still all less than 200 pounds.

And there will be anither surprise coming for scut users "mums the word"

 

[gladehound]

So we multiply 48 x 18 and we get 864 pounds. Now this was on hills I was moving them as well. My back wheels never tipped up or lost traction and I had no accessory weight on the rear . . Just me and my loaded tires.

...The weight of my forks is just under 100 pounds plus pallet weight. my bucket is 155 so in my bucket I could easily carry 800 pounds because its closer to the pivot point as well.

Just imagine my forks can handle over 1150 pounds on my 3 pt. . . Again because they are built for scut use not SSQA type plain steel concepts.

Again my point is "get what you need" .

Thanks for listening

Those are impressive real world numbers for such a small machine. I'm even more impressed with the stability. I agree people should get what they need/want as long as they are sure. And if a person is sure a SCUT is the right size then by all means get it. It is in cases where people are... Oh my... what's the word... "confused" that many recommend going up a size.

You did a really good job of picking attachments to maximize your tractor and this is something we all should try to do regardless of what size tractor we have.

 

[gladehound]

Greetings Glade,
Yes the scut market is really hampered if users buy standard tractor/skidsteer implements. Far too often they are straight plain chinese steel. Heavy as heck and too limiting for smart scut use. The other day I walked up to a retail ssqa set of forks and tried to lift them. I'm not young but I regularly carry lots of weight and alm I could have done with those ssqa forks was maybe ver sliwly drag tjem somewhere. I'm guessing 225 pounds. Meanwhile my forks are heavy duty but weigh about 95 pounds if I use them on the 3pt with the hitch pins in . . On the fel with no pins its about 90.

The SSQA market has been perfect for me. Got a set of 4,000 pound capacity forks for $550 (BTW they weigh ~300 pounds). A 1 yard struck capacity bucket for $650. Both made of American steel. I love having SSQA because the standard skid steer attachments are about the perfect heft for the size tractor I have and there is so much competition that it keeps the prices very reasonable.

I'm curious, how much these special SCUT attachments cost? Are they near the price of American made SSQA stuff or are the substantially less expensive?

 

[AxleHub]

The SSQA market has been perfect for me. Got a set of 4,000 pound capacity forks for $550 (BTW they weigh ~300 pounds). A 1 yard struck capacity bucket for $650. Both made of American steel. I love having SSQA because the standard skid steer attachments are about the perfect heft for the size tractor I have and there is so much competition that it keeps the prices very reasonable.

I'm curious, how much these special SCUT attachments cost? Are they near the price of American made SSQA stuff or are the substantially less expensive?

Great question glade. Like most things . . quality product has better quality steel in it. I don't know what my forks weight rating is but its more than my tractor can lift even at the 3pt side of things.

Your forks and mine are the same price. However all mytractortools.com product are sandblasted 1st . . Then primered and then powdercoated just as my patented quick attach is. More furability snd less rusting.

When I get the mini grapple it will be cheaper than grapples for other scuts but stronger again because of the steel type used. Same concept as bolts. Type 1 and 2 are cheaper than 5 or 8 grade but are good for much different purposes and strengths.

What is really sad is small tractors in some brands/models of scut and small cut are now coming in ssqa standards. Users mistakenly think its an advantage because so many outlets of implements are possible. What they don't understand is they are using implements designed for much larger equipment and as a result they pay a penalty every time they use those items unless the equipment size can handle it.

 

[Ooklaa]

Axle can you post some pixtures up of what you did and got so i can visualize better. Like i sais im going to see some massey ferguson tomorrow and will look a t a gc1715 and a 1700 series.

What does ssqa mean?

 

[gladehound]

Axle can you post some pixtures up of what you did and got so i can visualize better. Like i sais im going to see some massey ferguson tomorrow and will look a t a gc1715 and a 1700 series.

What does ssqa mean?

SSQA stands for Skid Steer Quick Attach. It is the standard mounting plate that you have on Bobcat and many other skid steers. Most compact utility tractors have some kind of SSQA plate on the loader so that skid steer attachments can be used. With these quick attach plates, changing from buckets to forks or other attachments takes just a few seconds.

Skid steer attachments typically come in light duty, medium / standard duty and heavy duty varieties. For most CUTS the light duty attachments will probably be best. For the largest CUTS the standard / medium duty attachment may be appropriate. The heavy duty attachments are overkill for any CUT and the extra weight reduces what your FEL can lift. For example, heavy duty SSQA grapples can weigh over 1000 pounds.

The snow bucket that I recently purchase was "light duty". It is 550 pounds, made of thicker and better quality steel than my original equipment bucket and has more reinforcement. It is not "light duty" by any measure in the CUT world. But in a world with 90 hp tracked skid steers, it is light duty.

 

[gladehound]

Your forks and mine are the same price. However all mytractortools.com product are sandblasted 1st . . Then primered and then powdercoated just as my patented quick attach is. More furability snd less rusting.

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My forks were a steal. American made, American steel, hardened forks strong enough to pry on stuff with a 7000 pound tractor. Forks like these are typically 700+ dollars, I just got a real good local deal. Ironically, the foreign steel, non-hardened version was for sale at the same place for only $50 less! - and though they looked similar, the capacity rating was only 2200 pounds - so about half as much! It pays to research what you are buying and you don't necessarily have to pay a lot more for quality.

 

[AxleHub]

Axle can you post some pixtures up of what you did and got so i can visualize better. Like i sais im going to see some massey ferguson tomorrow and will look a t a gc1715 and a 1700 series.

What does ssqa mean?

Nikko,

Ssqa is the attachment configuration standard used for skidsteers and as a result large tractors started using It to have access to skidsteer implements. Then some compact brands started equiping their tractors with optional quick attach or just attach designs that could use skidsteer layouts.

The whole problem is users start believing ssqa is either a good attachment method or offers universal access to implements. But the error is that a skidsteer's prrposes and design are much different than tractors. Skidsteers are bulk muscle lifters and pushers . . and even larger tractors have a different geometry. As tractors get smaller (compacts and subcompacts) . . they benefit from.implements designed for tractors and attaching methods dedigned for tractors uses. Too often heavy bulk designed implements get attached to tractors that benefit from finesse and greater attachment capability that ssqa doesn't provide . . . unless of course you have a big tractor that wants a big heavy bulky implement.

What you need to pay attention to Nikko . . If you talk to a massey dealer about a quick attach option for a GC1700 seties tractor . . They will tell you they dont have one and one isn't available and to the best of their knowledge that is correct.

Its correct because these types of items come from and are built by mytractortools.com . . AND they are sold directly to users.

I personally have the very first quick attach for a dl95 loader. But now more are made and being sold to users.

Maybe youve already read reviews on the 2012 massey gc2400 or the then new 2013 gc1705 at tractor.com

Those revuews tell you about the slughtly smaller version of my gc1715.

And mytractortools.com tells you about implements I have or will be purchasing soon.

Stay tune . . there will be more bew products coming too I'm told.

 

[gladehound]

Nikko,

Ssqa is the attachment configuration standard used for skidsteers and as a result large tractors started using It to have access to skidsteer implements. Then some compact brands started equiping their tractors with optional quick attach or just attach designs that could use skidsteer layouts.

The whole problem is users start believing ssqa is either a good attachment method or offers universal access to implements. But the error is that a skidsteer's prrposes and design are much different than tractors. Skidsteers are bulk muscle lifters and pushers . . and even larger tractors have a different geometry. As tractors get smaller (compacts and subcompacts) . . they benefit from.implements designed for tractors and attaching methods dedigned for tractors uses. Too often heavy bulk designed implements get attached to tractors that benefit from finesse and greater attachment capability that ssqa doesn't provide . . . unless of course you have a big tractor that wants a big heavy bulky implement.

What you need to pay attention to Nikko . . If you talk to a massey dealer about a quick attach option for a GC1700 seties tractor . . They will tell you they dont have one and one isn't available and to the best of their knowledge that is correct.

Its correct because these types of items come from and are built by mytractortools.com . . AND they are sold directly to users.

I personally have the very first quick attach for a dl95 loader. But now more are made and being sold to users.

Maybe youve already read reviews on the 2012 massey gc2400 or the then new 2013 gc1705 at tractor.com

Those revuews tell you about the slughtly smaller version of my gc1715.

And mytractortools.com tells you about implements I have or will be purchasing soon.

Stay tune . . there will be more bew products coming too I'm told.

Do you work for mytractortools.com?

 

[AxleHub]

My forks were a steal. American made, American steel, hardened forks strong enough to pry on stuff with a 7000 pound tractor. Forks like these are typically 700+ dollars, I just got a real good local deal. Ironically, the foreign steel, non-hardened version was for sale at the same place for only $50 less! - and though they looked similar, the capacity rating was only 2200 pounds - so about half as much! It pays to research what you are buying and you don't necessarily have to pay a lot more for quality.

Glade . . that explains alot. Your price you mentioned seemed very reasonable . . And I wondered how it could have been an accurate number to match my cost on my forks. See you are a sharpie. Lol