I fully understand Koua's point about pride in a well done installation but on the other hand, where would we be without zip ties, duct tape and baling wire? I don't mean to be facetious, but there are also efficiencies in using "temporary" solutions. If running hydraulic hoses to a grapple from rear remotes, a single length of hose can be routed under the tractor, up the FEL post and down the FEL arm to connect with the grapple hoses if you use zip ties. That can be accomplished in about ten minutes. If doing a nicer permanent installation, you'd invest hours and need to do some drilling and painting. You also have to consider that removing the FEL would be much more complicated with a permanent hose mount unless you break the system into two lengths of hose with two extra sets of quick connects so half is permanently attached to the FEL and the other half to the tractor. $$$ . Another consideration is that if the hoses snag on something there is a better chance that the hose will survive (so long as you recognize the problem) when a zip tie breaks rather than when a permanently secured hose is torn apart. These are all personal choices and I fully understand where James is coming from but nobody should be dissuaded from installing a grapple for fear that they don't know how to "permanently" attach hydraulic lines. Indeed, a truly fastidious person would route the whole system with metal tube and use vulnerable hose only at flexible bends the way big excavators are rigged. My advice would be to rig a rear remote controlled setup temporarily at first to see that everything works the way you expect and to then consider more permanent and neat installation modifications. That was my intention when I rigged my CK20 grapple to rear remotes. It would have cost me a day of grapple work to have futzed with a fancy permanent set up before getting to work. In my case, as the tractor was at my summer home, I could either spend a weekend doing a nice "permanent" installation of hoses, or, I could spend the same time in the seat doing toe to toe combat with Mother Nature. I suppose there were rainy weekends that I could have spent in the barn doing a nicer hose installation but that never rose to the top of the priority list. I left well enough alone.