Concealed Carry Regrets?

[Deere Dude]

I regret the difficulty of being able to carry at so many places of business; banks, doctor offices, schools. When entering these places, the law abider needs to check his weapon in his glove box or trunk or leave it home. It is a pain.

 

[heehaw]

my wife an i got ours as soon as they became available: renewed when needed, until the last renewal, to much of a hassle: never know when i am going to have to run to a school to pick up a GRANDkid: to many places we can't legally carry: plus, i really didn't want that info on my drivers license too: so we chose not to renew a couple years ago when it came due:

 

[jlgurr]

my wife an i got ours as soon as they became available: renewed when needed, until the last renewal, to much of a hassle: never know when i am going to have to run to a school to pick up a GRANDkid: to many places we can't legally carry: plus, i really didn't want that info on my drivers license too: so we chose not to renew a couple years ago when it came due:

The sad thing is that those who carry legally are not the people those establishments need be concerned with. Not sure they will ever understand that either, unfortunately.

 

[davesl708]

my wife an i got ours as soon as they became available: renewed when needed, until the last renewal, to much of a hassle: never know when i am going to have to run to a school to pick up a GRANDkid: to many places we can't legally carry: plus, i really didn't want that info on my drivers license too: so we chose not to renew a couple years ago when it came due:

Here we can carry concealed without a license. Public buildings will be required to allow concealed carry unless they can prove they can protect you.
This is going to go into effect I think in 2017.
Open carry has been legal in all but cities that outlawed it. Now the state forbids cities from forbidding carrying firearms. You can keep your firearm in your vehicle anywhere.

 

[mjonesnh]

No regrets, wish I had done it years earlier. No places that I regularly go has signs posted., if they did I would not enter their business and go else where to spend my money.

 

[jerrybob]

My only regrets are the businesses I no longer trade with because they post no firearm signs in the window.
I regret all the people in these mass shootings were required by law to be defenseless.

What is the penalty if caught with a firearm in one of these businesses? Unless you're going through a detector......how would they know if your firearm is concealed??

 

[RoyJackson]

What is the penalty if caught with a firearm in one of these businesses? Unless you're going through a detector......how would they know if your firearm is concealed??

They wouldn't...I have carried in posted commercial establishments more than once while armed. If one does get caught, I understand they will ask you to leave...that's about it.
However, I don't normally enter such places as a matter of principle.

Now, places like courthouses and such probably would have metal detectors. I know that's the case in PA (when I lived there). However, the law in PA requires court houses and other government buildings to have storage provisions for armed civilian firearms.
That's been a few years ago...but I'd be surprised if the laws have changed.

 

[davesl708]

What is the penalty if caught with a firearm in one of these businesses? Unless you're going through a detector......how would they know if your firearm is concealed??

As far as I know the only penalty is to ask you to leave.
As the LEO instructor here stated "the objective is concealed" don't ask, don't tell.

 

[dmccarty]

Nothing personally, but I've known a couple who found that when the stuff hit the fan, they were unable to react so they quit carrying. My son often had people ether walk out of his classes on the first day during classroom portion or as late as range day.

I am glad they quit carrying and the class even though it is a mindset that I can in no way, shape, or form understand but I have seen it myself. :confused3:

Once upon a time, I was in a defensive tactics class and the instructor asked how many people in the class could use deadly force? He phrased the question in such a way that all uncertainties of making a mistake were out of the way. The scary result was that only about 1/3 of the class raised their hands. :shocked: I was shocked. If you were in that class and NOT raising your hand you had two choices as far as I was concerned, turn in your gear and go home or have a come to Jesus meeting real quick with yourself. Nobody quit which I think was unfortunate because I do not think that all of the uncertain group got right with themselves either. They were a danger to themselves and the public.

There is a video from a dash camera where a young police officer was chasing a truck. Long story short, is that the officer had every reason and right to shoot the truck driver but failed to do so and the officer died as a result. The officer had plenty of time to shoot but did not. We will never know why the officer did not shoot, fear of lawsuits, fear of doing the right/wrong thing, fear of shooting someone or some combination there of. What is certain is that he did not shoot, and instead, he was shot and killed. My strong guess is that he simply could not shoot someone to defend himself. So he died.

Marshal, Grossman, Holmes, Keegan, etc talk about this in depth. Course, I think the Old Testament touches on the subject as well.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

What is the penalty if caught with a firearm in one of these businesses? Unless you're going through a detector......how would they know if your firearm is concealed??

Depends on the state, and I suppose, any local laws that are in place. One could simply be asked to leave or get arrested. HOW, they would know is problematic but if one pulled up a shirt just enough to show a weapon or if the weapon "printed" through, an alert employee might notice and call the POlice.

Later,
Dan