Trading in truck without catalytic convertor

[LD1]

05 cummins 2500 for a 09 cummins 3500 DRW

Both decked out, 4wd, Quad cab, long beds, leather etc

05 trade in had 100k miles
09 only has ~20k

 

[Trials]

Just so you know:

USEPA is a Federal government agency :teacher: that means what they say applies to all the states. Enforcement to date may have in reality differed from state to state.

You say your cat rusted off the vehicle in less than 5 years or 50,000 miles you are in luck, because that is the Minimum warranty that is required by law, many manufacturers extend the warranty much longer then this. Check Your vehicles warranty before eating the cost to replace one.

Gasoline-powered vehicles starting with the 1975 model year Must be equipped with catalytic converters. Motorcycles since 2006.

What is in them that makes them so expensive? A ceramic structure coated with a metal catalyst, usually platinum, rhodium and/or palladium. These materials are extremely expensive and some of the newest converters have even started to use gold mixed with the more traditional catalysts because using gold is a cheaper way to improve the devices efficiency. :silly: there is no such thing as a cheap generic cat replacement and if there was and your vehicle is a newer model, it probably won't be the one your vehicle requires.

 

[GPintheMitten]

This country is going to the dumps

 

[Trials]

This country is going to the dumps

If it makes you feel any better, we generally follow along with anything you guys do but I think the idea of the Environmental Protection Agency is to keep the country from turning into a dump.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

While ago guy comes to me and says in broken English, "my car is running bad", so I go out listen it sounds like a miss, spray water on the plug wires and he has two grounding out on the EGR pipe. So, I have a couple laying around we replace them and off he goes. Few days latter comes back, and in broken English, "my car is running bad", listen to it again no miss, so i take it for a ride and I think my dog is faster than this car. He fouled out his converter. This guy doesn't have a pot to piss in. He is working second shift milking cows so he can go home and watch his kids during the day. His wife works first shift as a CNA at a nursing home. We are pretty sure he is illegal, but can't figure out how he got past the company employment screen, his is a good guy hard working, so we, "see nothing" We are in the country here so you have to have a car to get around! So, what is a guy to do? Tell him to take it in replace your converter and $300 latter your outa there. That is his rent. He flat out does not have it. So, we lift it up with the skid loader, look the other way while he crawls under neath , have him cut off the converter, break the bolts off at the flange and gives it to me.
I take it home cut out the converter, weld in a pipe, put in an extender on the o2 sensor, give the old convector back to him and he installs the pipe. Three days latter he comes back to me, and in broken English says, "you make my girls, so happy." I'm like what do you mean, I thought my boys did something, we have twin boys the same age as his, in the same grade at school. No, "I sold the old converter and got money for birthday present". Our vehicles have all there emissions are stock and i have never taken a cat out of any of our vehicles. However talk is cheap, and this we need to do this and that to save the environment. It is always those that have money that are saying that. Some of these laws just think how hard it is making it on the poor. The cash for clunkers, it took all those cost effective used cars, the poor needed off the road! And I will tell you what I can't even count how many time i have done it and i have NO problems sleeping at night.

 

[moriboy]

When I traded in a vehicle this year I had to sign a document that stated that the vehicle still had all the emissions equipment on it that it came with from the factory.

Me too. I traded in a diesel pickup in Oct. and was even asked if the dpf, egr, etc was intact and functioning properly.

 

[Trials]

While ago guy comes to me and says in broken English, "my car is running bad", so I go out listen it sounds like a miss, spray water on the plug wires and he has two grounding out on the EGR pipe. So, I have a couple laying around we replace them and off he goes. Few days latter comes back, and in broken English, "my car is running bad", listen to it again no miss, so i take it for a ride and I think my dog is faster than this car. He fouled out his converter. This guy doesn't have a pot to piss in. He is working second shift milking cows so he can go home and watch his kids during the day. His wife works first shift as a CNA at a nursing home. We are pretty sure he is illegal, but can't figure out how he got past the company employment screen, his is a good guy hard working, so we, "see nothing" We are in the country here so you have to have a car to get around! So, what is a guy to do? Tell him to take it in replace your converter and $300 latter your outa there. That is his rent. He flat out does not have it. So, we lift it up with the skid loader, look the other way while he crawls under neath , have him cut off the converter, break the bolts off at the flange and gives it to me.
I take it home cut out the converter, weld in a pipe, put in an extender on the o2 sensor, give the old convector back to him and he installs the pipe. Three days latter he comes back to me, and in broken English says, "you make my girls, so happy." I'm like what do you mean, I thought my boys did something, we have twin boys the same age as his, in the same grade at school. No, "I sold the old converter and got money for birthday present". Our vehicles have all there emissions are stock and i have never taken a cat out of any of our vehicles. However talk is cheap, and this we need to do this and that to save the environment. It is always those that have money that are saying that. Some of these laws just think how hard it is making it on the poor. The cash for clunkers, it took all those cost effective used cars, the poor needed off the road! And I will tell you what I can't even count how many time i have done it and i have NO problems sleeping at night.

Excellent story. I like it! :thumbsup:
Reminds me of a really good friend I gave a car to a few years back.

 

[MMagis]

If it makes you feel any better, we generally follow along with anything you guys do but I think the idea of the Environmental Protection Agency is to keep the country from turning into a dump.

Ha, that’s a good one. I assume in Canada you’re lucky enough to not be so familiar with the EPA.
They’ve become nothing more than a government funded special interest group. The entire organization needs to be shut down, stripped of the corruption, and re-branded.

 

[Trials]

Ha, that逞ｴ a good one. I assume in Canada you豎*e lucky enough to not be so familiar with the EPA.
They閾ｴe become nothing more than a government funded special interest group. The entire organization needs to be shut down, stripped of the corruption, and re-branded.

On the contrary, our vehicle emissions standards follow those in California and our cars and trucks are required to undergo a clean air inspection once every 2 years, or whenever they change ownership.

Anti-pollution laws are not going to go away and they are not going to get more lax. I fully anticipate that my next street legal motorcycle purchase will even be one that is electric powered, even if they are not a truly good way to combat the problems they appear to be the way of the future for recreational vehicles, for everything else there is Diesel power.

 

[GPintheMitten]

Next thing will be Def and regen on weed wackers