hitch question

[white cloud]

Also, I may be listening to JD advertising hype but that tractor looks really easy to use. I have NO experience with a tractor.

 

[GPintheMitten]

The JD 3032 is quite a bit larger tractor than the Kubota B2320. I think an L series Kubota would be more similar.

That 3032 does look like a nice tractor.

 

[newbury]

I have a 2014 F150 ecoboost that is rated at about 10k trailer haul. My daughter has a 2013 F150 dually with a diesel. She can haul a tractor of that size without a WDH. She does pull a gooseneck horse trailer but you don't need a gooseneck for hauling a compact tractor

"2013 F150 dually" - did you mean 350 or 450? I never heard of a 150 dually or a 150 diesel.

The JD 3032 is quite a bit larger tractor than the Kubota B2320. I think an L series Kubota would be more similar.

That 3032 does look like a nice tractor.

I agree, for the OP's usage it would probably be big enough to work. He will probably need at least 25 HP at the PTO.

 

[GPintheMitten]

Sorry typo. My daughter has an F350 diesel dually.
I can't edit the original post.

 

[white cloud]

I also understand the JD 3025 has an aluminum rear differential housing as so can't support an excavator. I don't think that I will need the excavator but wonder about the aluminum housing. Thoughts here? You people are very patient.

 

[Citydude]

Well, I can't imagine living in a forested area and not dealing with logs. I have 3 large slash piles from storm damaged trees I need to burn this winter. Anyway....

If your just going to be maintaining a road and food plots, the 3032 would be fine. It's kind of light to comparable frame sizes in other brands however.

 

[4570Man]

The JD is pretty light. It will suck at plowing. It is 500 pounds lighter than a L3800, and a L3800 struggles to pull a 2 bottom plow. The L3800 has loaded tires. The loader is rated about the same on the JD and a L3800. A L3800 is pretty light doing loader work with loaded tires and a bush hog on the back. I can't imagine how the JD would perform. I have read a BX can't pull a plow due to lack of ground clearance.

 

[farm boy00]

It sounds like these are really nice tractors you are looking at which also includes a decent price tag? ? Why not get a little older tractor that will put out all the power you need, but I think it would be easier to learn to run, and until you truly understand the operations of a tractor it, you later could then get a nicer tractor and have some decent knowledge of how they work

 

[brown40]

Like any other equipment/tool, whatever tractor you choose will become relatively easy to operate as you put in your time. Its hard to pass up 0% financing, unless you have the cash to buy used--there are many owners that don't put 100 hours a year on their unit, and they sometimes bite on the 0%... there also may be some great setups: tractor implements and trailer if you have local buy/swap to check. 1000 hours is getting broke in.
You have enough truck to drag a CUT sideways down the road without a trailer--pick a trailer that gives you plenty of room and excess capacity, so you don't get tempted to put an implement in your shiny new truck bed. Doing jobs that require multiple implements off-site goes a lot smoother when you haven't planned out every square foot of the trailer to accept a certain configuration.
Weight distributing hitches transfer load from the rear axle to the front, but shouldn't be needed on a properly loaded trailer, with a vehicle rated for the tongue weight, which you have... that said, I don't know anyone would fault the use of one unnecessarily, unless you somehow managed to unload your rear axle.
Its confusing, but a lot of fun to tractor shop.

 

[wcampbell47]

It sounds like these are really nice tractors you are looking at which also includes a decent price tag? ? Why not get a little older tractor that will put out all the power you need, but I think it would be easier to learn to run, and until you truly understand the operations of a tractor it, you later could then get a nicer tractor and have some decent knowledge of how they work

No gear tractor is easier to learn to use than an HST. I have a 65 year old friend that can't drive a gear shift. Go figure!! He pops the clutch every time which at times has been dangerous.

 

[wcampbell47]

I have pulled bumper pull trailers most of my life. This past year I acquired a goose neck which I set up with a king pin and fifth wheel. Needless to say my bumper pull has not been used in a while. Hooking up is so much easier now. Load Trail makes a car hauler with a 9,900 lbs GVW. I would say this is a light weight goose neck. It is under 10,000 lbs so you could pull it across state lines without being considered commercial. Pulling a "heavy weight" trailer could put you into a commercial class if you exceed the limit imposed by the state. Stick with something on the lighter side and you should be fine.

 

[white cloud]

You know that log/fallen tree problem is something I had not considered. Why? I am not sure. I have a propensity for purchasing high quality products that are too small for the job and needing to replace them later. This is for sale near me: 2013 KUBOTA L4600 HST 4X4 W/LOADER - $23900. It has 38 hours. Would this sort of cover all my bases? This looks to be larger and more powerful without going crazy.

 

[Citydude]

You know that log/fallen tree problem is something I had not considered. Why? I am not sure. I have a propensity for purchasing high quality products that are too small for the job and needing to replace them later. This is for sale near me: 2013 KUBOTA L4600 HST 4X4 W/LOADER - $23900. It has 38 hours. Would this sort of cover all my bases? This looks to be larger and more powerful without going crazy.

It's 1000 pounds heavier than the 3032e, something you defiantly need is weight and not a bad price. I think that would cover your bases. I would go look at it for sure if it were me.

 

[4570Man]

No gear tractor is easier to learn to use than an HST. I have a 65 year old friend that can't drive a gear shift. Go figure!! He pops the clutch every time which at times has been dangerous.

I was proficient on a gear tractor by the time I was 10 years old. Anyone who says a gear is easier to learn has never used a HST. The ease of learning isn't a big deal because both are pretty simple. A HST tractor is 10 times easier to use. My 93 year old Grandpa went and traded his gear tractor after using my HST .

 

[brown40]

I was proficient on a gear tractor by the time I was 10 years old. Anyone who says a gear is easier to learn has never used a HST. The ease of learning isn't a big deal because both are pretty simple. A HST tractor is 10 times easier to use. My 93 year old Grandpa went and traded his gear tractor after using my HST .

+1 on the HST--they roll out and stop/slow when you release the pedal, where you have to hit the clutch and brake to stop a gear or reverser. Not the same degree of muscle memory, coordination, and sometimes leg strength required in other transmissions. I wouldn't trade my HST--especially for loader work and tight quarters. I wouldn't shy away from a great deal on a different setup if I were in the used market though. Buying new, I wouldn't consider anything but HST unless I was trying for the biggest frame I could afford... HST does add quite a bit to the price tag.

 

[newbury]

You know that log/fallen tree problem is something I had not considered. Why? I am not sure. I have a propensity for purchasing high quality products that are too small for the job and needing to replace them later. This is for sale near me: 2013 KUBOTA L4600 HST 4X4 W/LOADER - $23900. It has 38 hours. Would this sort of cover all my bases? This looks to be larger and more powerful without going crazy.

It seems that it's only in the last decade that Kubota utility tractors, above 50 HP, started offering HST (I don't know about other brands).
That L4600 reads like a nice deal. Definitely need a 20' or bigger trailer. That was the size I was looking for prior to getting my M4700. Does it have QA? Rear remotes?

Sorry typo. My daughter has an F350 diesel dually.
I can't edit the original post.

Just read in another thread about a 2017 F150 Diesel, probably NOT a dually though

 

[sdef]

I have a 2015 RAM 2500 Cummins, 6.4 bed, crew cab, fairly loaded Ram Horn 4WD. It is rated to tow 17,180# on the bumper and no WD is mentioned in any literature. There is no V5 rating sticker on the 2.5", Class V receiver.

Following is a Dodge caveat mentioned on the same page as the 2500/3500 ratings (I downloaded when I was deciding which truck to purchase) and the highest tow rating advertised is 30k#:
- 7. A 5th-wheel or gooseneck hitch is required for trailers over 18,000 lb, a gooseneck hitch is required for trailers over 25,000 lb.

I have also been towing bumper pull trailers for many years and swear by a quality WD/sway control hitch setup- primarily for sway control and also WD for weaker suspensions. This summer I towed a properly setup 20' equipment trailer with an older Ford Explorer on it as a test between a load bearing hitch (Weigh Safe) and an old, trusty Equalizer 10k WD/sway control hitch. Tongue weight was around 11% - 12%. The truck handled the load easily in all respects. End result was the truck bounced more than I care to have happen with the weight carrying hitch and it smoothed out considerably with the WD Equalizer. And this is the experience I was expecting since the pivot point between the truck and trailer (hitch ball) is a lot more stationary with the heavily weighted WD bars than with a weight carrying hitch.

I recently towed my tractor to a friend's farm to dig a small duck pond into a hill side, fill and level a 100' x 25' area alongside his barn for a water capture system and dug out a hill side all in a mixture of sand/clay soil so he could back his F250 into it and have a level point at the tailgate for loading/unloading. Took me ~ 5 hours of tractor time.

I also recently finished cleared my new home site (house now built) for building our new home and cut down and carried lots of tree load with the tractor. My 45 gross HP HST tractor weighs ~ 6800 - 7500 pounds depending upon implements attached and I could not imagine having anything smaller for doing this kind of work. There were quite a few times I wanted something heavier.

But I digress... Towing this 10,400 pound rig on I-77, I-20 and on two lane roads continuously up and down moderate hills using my new Blue Ox Sway Pro 1500 WD/sway control setup was a relative joy with little to no bounce. I had ~ 11% - 12% tongue weight and the truck height was within 3/8" or less, front and rear/side to side of the unloaded measurements. Also got hand computed 11+ MPG running 65 MPH on the Interstates and ~ 40 MPH in town. Truck had ~ 5000 miles on the odometer.

 

[bcp]

I have read a BX can't pull a plow due to lack of ground clearance.

BX plowing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REcSJjqW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj8mXQgMZfo

Bruce

 

[sdef]

BX plowing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REcSJjqW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj8mXQgMZfo

Bruce

Pretty awesome. I had no idea these could do that. Wish I had soil like on these videos. Mine is really hard clay and really large rocks.