What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE?

   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE? #32  
Do you read or just look at pics?
Yes, what I posted has bearing on the discussion and it addressed the quoted text shown above my reply.

Tug of war? We'll accept that challenge.
Travis

Oh, I read it. Apparently you didn't read the objections to your previous response and went about continuing the argument against the points you think you can defend.

JIC nor NPT are stressed connection types. NEITHER ONE! One being superior to the other in an unfit application has not been shown. One being superior to the other in a "works better" has not been shown either. Your only defense of using the NPT is that you think it's better and you claim it costs more. JIC is inherently less prone to leaking, because NPT requires the use of sealant to ensure galling doesn't destroy it's threads and ultimately the dope is more likely to be holding pressure than a metal-to-metal seal (which every other modern coupler uses short of the O rings).

Once again, you're arguing someone who's not here, and you're not arguing the discussion that's been raised.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE?
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#34  
Oh, I read it. Apparently you didn't read the objections to your previous response and went about continuing the argument against the points you think you can defend.

JIC nor NPT are stressed connection types. NEITHER ONE! One being superior to the other in an unfit application has not been shown. One being superior to the other in a "works better" has not been shown either. Your only defense of using the NPT is that you think it's better and you claim it costs more. JIC is inherently less prone to leaking, because NPT requires the use of sealant to ensure galling doesn't destroy it's threads and ultimately the dope is more likely to be holding pressure than a metal-to-metal seal (which every other modern coupler uses short of the O rings).

Once again, you're arguing someone who's not here, and you're not arguing the discussion that's been raised.

I said:

Ted has been hands on with hydraulics for over 40 years. He knows what is available out there as well as the good and bad points for each style. What we are using now is US MADE, widely available, durable and has given no problems in the field. Why change??


We are in the business. We design the grapples. We build the grapples. We address warranty claims(which have been virtually nonexistent). We are where the buck stops.
So, why change? For this application, what we are using is proven and it has been working since the beginning.

If something is subpar, we'll address the issue and change it quickly. Very quickly.
Travis
 
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   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE? #35  
It's been mentioned several times on this forum, that if you happen to get your connections stuck you crack the fitting to bleed pressure so you can hook them up to your tractor. Some mention doing this at the threads rather than at the quick connector. If you're reseating an NPT fitting over and over, it will wear out! This is why it's not a superior fitting standard.

You're the one claiming it's best here. You have the burden of proof why. You've failed that, and keep harping about it. Ted could've designed the **** things for all I care and NPT would still be inferior to a 37 degree flare.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE?
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#36  
It's been mentioned several times on this forum, that if you happen to get your connections stuck you crack the fitting to bleed pressure so you can hook them up to your tractor. Some mention doing this at the threads rather than at the quick connector. If you're reseating an NPT fitting over and over, it will wear out! This is why it's not a superior fitting standard.

You're the one claiming it's best here. You have the burden of proof why. You've failed that, and keep harping about it. Ted could've designed the **** things for all I care and NPT would still be inferior to a 37 degree flare.

I also addressed that in my irrelevant post earlier.
Travis

We understand that JIC is more modern and have used them for YEARS on various things, so we know that there are faults. There are faults with about everything.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE?
  • Thread Starter
#37  
It's been mentioned several times on this forum, that if you happen to get your connections stuck you crack the fitting to bleed pressure so you can hook them up to your tractor. Some mention doing this at the threads rather than at the quick connector. If you're reseating an NPT fitting over and over, it will wear out! This is why it's not a superior fitting standard.

You're the one claiming it's best here. You have the burden of proof why. You've failed that, and keep harping about it. Ted could've designed the **** things for all I care and NPT would still be inferior to a 37 degree flare.

To add. Again, from a previous reply:

it has been working since the beginning.

If something is subpar, we'll address the issue and change it quickly. Very quickly.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE? #38  
When I installed my rear remotes I used NPT fittings and hoses, thinking that if a hose blew, I could source it at Tractor Supply.

Turned out to be a complete nightmare, trying to get, and keep, the fittings sealed ... back of tractor covered in dripping hydraulic fluid.

Pulled the rear remote valve and replaced all the fittings with JIC wherever I could.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE? #39  
Travis, I know you mean well. But when you start threads like this you appear to be arrogant and egotistical. Calm down. Reread your posts before hitting the post reply button. Why not just sit back and let your equipment speak for itself?? You don't have to "sell" your products here if they are as good as you claim. Just think a little before starting. Try to look at what you type from other's perspective. Calm down.
 
   / What would keep your Grapple out of the FIRE?
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#40  
Travis, I know you mean well. But when you start threads like this you appear to be arrogant and egotistical. Calm down. Reread your posts before hitting the post reply button. Why not just sit back and let your equipment speak for itself?? You don't have to "sell" your products here if they are as good as you claim. Just think a little before starting. Try to look at what you type from other's perspective. Calm down.

I'm calm.
I was just pointing out something that we do that is beneficial to our customers.
****, this wasn't a big scheme to sell more grapples. Our grapples are selling.
I guess my cool tidbit comes across as a master marketing scheme to some.

You'd think we just spent money for some of those crazy annoying flashing banner ads to lure you to our website.
If that were the case, I'd let you all line up and flog me.

Travis
 
 

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