Possible danger of tractor side exhaust

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Have you seen a doctor about this? It could be that the minute bit of tractor exhaust you may be inhaling is aggravating something more serious. Get it checked out. :thumbsup:

I'm going to for the yearly in March. Thing is it clears up after a few days of laying off the tractor. Old Pilgrim has the same tractor and is not bugged as I am which means he may be using his differently or using a different fuel additive or has a less sensitive physiology. I am curious about others not noticing a smell even. I'm wondering if their pipe outlet is set at a different angle. Mine comes out horizontally even to the ground and leaves the tractor about at a 30-40* angle. Exhaust shoots out semi forward as a result and if the boom is low enough, blows against it. Anyone have their outlet directly facing the side and not angulated to the front? I am assuming they did the front angle thing to clear the tire. I guess they didn't care much if the loader to in the way but an appreciable amount of exhaust is dispersed in a shotgun manner as a result, kind of coagulates all around the front of the tractor as seen in the headlight luminescence. Been using the tractor like this for over two years only just discovering the exhaust dispersion (or lack there of) situation couple weeks ago.

 

[davesl708]

I'm going to for the yearly in March. Thing is it clears up after a few days of laying off the tractor. Old Pilgrim has the same tractor and is not bugged as I am which means he may be using his differently or using a different fuel additive or has a less sensitive physiology. I am curious about others not noticing a smell even. I'm wondering if their pipe outlet is set at a different angle. Mine comes out horizontally even to the ground and leaves the tractor about at a 30-40* angle. Exhaust shoots out semi forward as a result and if the boom is low enough, blows against it. Anyone have their outlet directly facing the side and not angulated to the front? I am assuming they did the front angle thing to clear the tire. I guess they didn't care much if the loader to in the way but an appreciable amount of exhaust is dispersed in a shotgun manner as a result, kind of coagulates all around the front of the tractor as seen in the headlight luminescence. Been using the tractor like this for over two years only just discovering the exhaust dispersion (or lack there of) situation couple weeks ago.

My exhaust is similar to yours in layout but angles downward. It does blow on the boom when it is down but I do not get any blowback up to the operator area.

 

[randyjs]

I have noticed a big difference in smoke depending on brand of fuel. With local discount brands I have a lot of smoke. I now buy Shell or BP and only get a small puff when the tractor first starts.

 

[DK35vince]

I am curious about others not noticing a smell even. I'm wondering if their pipe outlet is set at a different angle. Mine comes out horizontally even to the ground and leaves the tractor about at a 30-40* angle. Exhaust shoots out semi forward as a result and if the boom is low enough, blows against it.

Sounds very similar to mine. (blows out the side of the hood angled to blow just in front of the left front tire).
Exhaust blows against the loader arm with the boom down.
But I never notice any exhaust fumes or smell when operating. ( I've owned it for 14 years)

 

[oldpilgrim]

I'm going to for the yearly in March. Thing is it clears up after a few days of laying off the tractor. Old Pilgrim has the same tractor and is not bugged as I am which means he may be using his differently or using a different fuel additive or has a less sensitive physiology. I am curious about others not noticing a smell even. I'm wondering if their pipe outlet is set at a different angle. Mine comes out horizontally even to the ground and leaves the tractor about at a 30-40* angle. Exhaust shoots out semi forward as a result and if the boom is low enough, blows against it. Anyone have their outlet directly facing the side and not angulated to the front? I am assuming they did the front angle thing to clear the tire. I guess they didn't care much if the loader to in the way but an appreciable amount of exhaust is dispersed in a shotgun manner as a result, kind of coagulates all around the front of the tractor as seen in the headlight luminescence. Been using the tractor like this for over two years only just discovering the exhaust dispersion (or lack there of) situation couple weeks ago.

Mines' not 'angulated' very much:

I use Howes year round.

my son just gave me these to put on it:

Why he made me 2, I don't know. He's young, maybe he wants me to hot rod it.

I suspect it's your physiology, Arrow... a sensitivity or allergy that you're just starting to notice. I developed allergies to certain foods when I hit 60..right out of the blue, and it pizzes me off that I can't have the things I've enjoyed all my life. I hope you figure it out.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm going to for the yearly in March. Thing is it clears up after a few days of laying off the tractor. Old Pilgrim has the same tractor and is not bugged as I am which means he may be using his differently or using a different fuel additive or has a less sensitive physiology. I am curious about others not noticing a smell even. I'm wondering if their pipe outlet is set at a different angle. Mine comes out horizontally even to the ground and leaves the tractor about at a 30-40* angle. Exhaust shoots out semi forward as a result and if the boom is low enough, blows against it. Anyone have their outlet directly facing the side and not angulated to the front? I am assuming they did the front angle thing to clear the tire. I guess they didn't care much if the loader to in the way but an appreciable amount of exhaust is dispersed in a shotgun manner as a result, kind of coagulates all around the front of the tractor as seen in the headlight luminescence. Been using the tractor like this for over two years only just discovering the exhaust dispersion (or lack there of) situation couple weeks ago.

I don't mean to be a pest, but 99% of the folks here aren't reporting aggravated breathing difficulties after operating their equipment. Unless you're in a confined area, or there's zero breeze, and you're operating standing darn near still, there's just not enough concentration of fumes to affect someone like its affecting you. Hope it works out for you. Get it checked.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm glad for the topic because it is something I have thought about... more so with my Deere 110 and the C350 Dozer

Do wear a 3M particulate respirator if I'm operating for any length of time... in part because of the dust storm that can be kicked up in drought country.

Never noticed any issues with the CAT D3 and put many hours over 17 years on it.

Just seems everything remotely similar coming under scrutiny when it comes to emissions... even the Hospital Diesel Generators and Natural Gas Boilers...

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm glad for the topic because it is something I have thought about... more so with my Deere 110 and the C350 Dozer

Do wear a 3M particulate respirator if I'm operating for any length of time... in part because of the dust storm that can be kicked up in drought country.

Never noticed any issues with the CAT D3 and put many hours over 17 years on it.

Just seems everything remotely similar coming under scrutiny when it comes to emissions... even the Hospital Diesel Generators and Natural Gas Boilers...

 

[Coyote machine]

FWIW, I think you, Arrow, have been around various sources of CO poisoning for a long time and all the things you stated have contributed to your current situation. For instance, using chain saws, and the various tractors, etc. over many years of logging. I too notice exhaust on my DK-40 Kioti when it's running and try not to breath it in when I notice it by turning myself away from it, moving the tractor to a better position, etc.
Having owned a foreign auto repair shop, I've been exposed to way too much CO, and as a result can't be near it for more than a few seconds without a wicked headache resulting. I believe CO is cumulative in one's bloodstream, and thus many years of exposure would have higher consequences than infrequent exposure.And people saying thy don't smell the fumes from diesel engines does NOT mean they're not breathing them or being affected by them, it just means they're less aware of the presence of them.
Cabbed tractors probably reduce or close to eliminate fumes ingested by the tractor OPs but the fumes are still present when starting and running into the garage or barn at the end of the day.
In addition to having your blood checked for high concentrations of CO and whatever else can be tested for by your doc, wearing a high quality respirator might be worth trying to see if it changes symptoms from use of your tractor.... Just a thought to help you determine your cause/effect.
Good luck, let us know the outcome.

 

[Billrog]

On my last small tractor I had a tail pipe made up to run the exhaust to the back because of fumes and dust blowing up in my face in dry areas. For using the pto with my splitter I'd convert it back to the front this took me no more than 5 mins. I've yet to figure out how with my Kioti but will post picks if it works well once I do it.

 

[varmint]

I checked my L3400's exhaust location more carefully after reading thru this thread... it angles down and out, nowhere's near the boom or bucket, and that's likely why I don't notice it... starting in the barn, sure, but once it's outside, I am not subject to exhaust. Good.
On a similar, but different note, I had a friend who owned a successful German Auto full service repair shop- he was good, and worked very hard, and it payed off from him. He would often restore old Mercedes and Porsches, working on them after dinner when the shop was closed. After years of breathing auto body shop solvents and who knows what, sadly he couldn't even go near his own body shop without very serious breathing issues. I hope he's still alive!!

 

[Industrial Toys]

This thread brings back fond memories of hooking up implements with the rear exhaust on our old Universal tractor. Or giving her throttle when a friend was helping to do so.

 

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Mines' not 'angulated' very much:

I use Howes year round.

my son just gave me these to put on it:

Why he made me 2, I don't know. He's young, maybe he wants me to hot rod it.

I suspect it's your physiology, Arrow... a sensitivity or allergy that you're just starting to notice. I developed allergies to certain foods when I hit 60..right out of the blue, and it pizzes me off that I can't have the things I've enjoyed all my life. I hope you figure it out.

Let me know how these extensions work out Pilgrim. I've discovered there is no vertical exhaust option or none the dealer knows about. I would hate to cut into the original as it would take too long to fabricate off the original pipe. Might have to start from scratch and fab mounting plate and all. Just beginning skidding season as the ground has finally froze over so do not want the tractor hung up for fab work. Going out as soon as I mount the skid plate I made for the 16. That's another thing I should have done years ago.

 

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In addition to having your blood checked for high concentrations of CO and whatever else can be tested for by your doc,.

This is a good idea Coyote. Never crossed my mind to be tested for CO. Don't get the head aches, just the throat frog irritation. Thanks.

 

[oldpilgrim]

Let me know how these extensions work out Pilgrim.

Will do. He's making me another one as those pictured are too large in diameter. I'm going to experiment as to which direction works the best. I'm thinking straight down at first.

 

[JerryK]

My 5035 is upturned. Starts under the hood about even with the back of the front axle. Then shoots upwards above the tire at about a 35 degree angle. My thought is [ guess ] is that if you point it forward you are just making a cloud you have to drive thru sometimes. The upturned exhaust is great when you have someone standing right in front of it when you fire it up. Big cloud of black smoke...!!!!

 

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My 5035 is upturned. Starts under the hood about even with the back of the front axle. Then shoots upwards above the tire at about a 35 degree angle. My thought is [ guess ] is that if you point it forward you are just making a cloud you have to drive thru sometimes. The upturned exhaust is great when you have someone standing right in front of it when you fire it up. Big cloud of black smoke...!!!!

Can't tell too well by the pic but it looks as if they mounted the exhaust manifold exit up high as if one turned a header upside down so the exhaust first goes up.. I'm also wondering why they chose to exit the exhaust on the opposite side. Does your fel boom get in the way Jerry when it's down?

 

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Will do. He's making me another one as those pictured are too large in diameter. I'm going to experiment as to which direction works the best. I'm thinking straight down at first.

Not liking your first idea Pilgrim of a downward turned exhaust. My first impression is that the ground would simply act like a reverb area for the exhaust to bounce up and toward you as you're moving forward. I'd be first experimenting with a more side thrust and slightly upward like in Jerry's pic.
It would be neat if we could infuse a "coloring agent" into the fuel to be able to trace the exhaust path so one could see where every last, stinkin exhaust molecule is moving.

 

[JerryK]

Can't tell too well by the pic but it looks as if they mounted the exhaust manifold exit up high as if one turned a header upside down so the exhaust first goes up.. I'm also wondering why they chose to exit the exhaust on the opposite side. Does your fel boom get in the way Jerry when it's down?

The FEL is above and forward on the 5035, no where near the exhaust.. Here is a picture I pulled off the net... You can just see the exhaust shooting up by the top of the tire, just forward of the little white/yellow sticker. On the 5035, the intake manifold is on the drivers side, and the exhaust manifold is on the left.

 

[oldpilgrim]

I will experiment.