Problem starting 5045d John Deere tractor

[JD5210]

I guess I would need to cut open an old fuel filter to see how it works, but I would think one would NOT want to try and drain it while the tractor is running as that opens up the system. It does not surprise me that it died. Others please correct me if you think I am wrong.

Before you go cracking injectors, watch this video this tractor has the same fuel filter set-up as the tractor you are working on. Then fill the tank, change the fuel filter and fill it before you put it on. See if it will start up. If not try bleeding again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEDJiIdzcA

I have attached the page from the manual for bleeding. What you are talking about locking down applies if there is a hand primer, which based on your pictures is NOT what you have.

Here is the manual.

OMSJ301049

 

[kpack]

I got it started . I had to bleed the system and crack the injectors to get it started after putting 5 gallons of diesel in it.
I believe it ran out right when I touched the fuel filter. It was late when I got over there i thought I saw a 1/4 tank or more and the lady said she thought it had that but when it died I looked at the gauge and it was on red. I'll post some of the pictures later of the other stuff I'm going to take a shower.

 

[jd110]

By looking at your pictures, it appears that your fuel filter is original. It is painted green which is how they come from the factory. Not sure how old the tractor is or how many hours is on it, but I would definitely start with changing your filter. There is probably a smaller in-line filter that should be changed as well. In your earlier picture of the injection pump, The green connector above the injection pump is the connector for the cold start sensor. Follow it up to the thermostat housing to find the sensor. It is barely visible in your photo. It appears that it is connected so I doubt it is your problem..

 

[kpack]

There's what your talking about in the first picture I think there in that order I'll see when I post. I unplugged it and pushed back together to make sure it's getting contact. The second picture I do not know what it does but when I followed it back it was touching the maifold and it melted the wire loom off and the two wires are burnt and hard. Not burned into but hard.

 

[Tx Jim]

kpack
2nd photo of yours is sensor for speed-hour meter(tachometer) RE60021 FILTER ELEMENT, ELEMENT,FL FILTER,S ADD 21.97 USD & AL153517 FUEL FILTER, PRE-FUEL FILTER ADD 33.43 USD(parts key 5) With electric transfer pump(parts key 7) bleeding air out of fuel filter should be very easy.

 

[buickanddeere]

Plugging in coolant heater at 45ｰF is a waste of ELECTRICITY!!!!!!

If 30 minutes of heater time is going to financially break the operator . The time is over due to sell out.
There could however be a slow cranking situation with a weak or undersized battery, voltage drop in the cables or connections . Or a worn stater. Measuring voltage at the starter while cranking would be revealing.

 

[Tx Jim]

If 30 minutes of heater time is going to financially break the operator . The time is over due to sell out.
There could however be a slow cranking situation with a weak or undersized battery, voltage drop in the cables or connections . Or a worn stater. Measuring voltage at the starter while cranking would be revealing.

It's not about the WASTE of 30 minutes of the electric meter spinning or whom can or can"t afford it BUT my point is most diesel engines in good operating condition will start just fine @ 45°F with NO OTHER ASSISTANCE REQUIRED including a warm coolant heater!!!!!!!! Maybe diesel engines require more assistance in Canada @ 45° F than in the Republic of Texas

 

[buickanddeere]

It's not about the WASTE of 30 minutes of the electric meter spinning or whom can or can"t afford it BUT my point is most diesel engines in good operating condition will start just fine @ 45°F with NO OTHER ASSISTANCE REQUIRED including a warm coolant heater!!!!!!!! Maybe diesel engines require more assistance in Canada @ 45° F than in the Republic of Texas

There is more "Hot Air" in Texas which assists starting

 

[kpack]

Easy boys were all trying to help each other. This lady is a very good friend of ours I help her with stuff from time to time no charge she would do anything for my family.
She says it only has about 300 hrs on it , I did not look at the hrs but I will ,I'm trying to find the model number I wrote it down but can't find it . Maybe y'all can tell the yr model.

 

[Tx Jim]

There is more "Hot Air" in Texas which assists starting

b&d you're correct on the hot air as I see flies still alive here. It hasn't been below freezing so far this Winter but very few times. I think it's called "Global change" Have you recieved much snow?

 

[Tx Jim]

I'm trying to find the model number I wrote it down but can't find it . Maybe y'all can tell the yr model.

Tratordata shows 5045D built from 2008-2014 but has no serial numbers listed.

 

[SARG]

I have very limited knowledge on diesel engines except rule #1 . Keep the fuel tanks full & use additives in the winter months........... period.

 

[kpack]

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I can't tell what the first and last is its just what it looks like to me.
366 hrs on the od

 

[buickanddeere]

b&d you're correct on the hot air as I see flies still alive here. It hasn't been below freezing so far this Winter but very few times. I think it's called "Global change" Have you recieved much snow?

After an extended mild spell which occurred immediately after I bought a new snowmobile and hauled the snowblower out of storage .winter has returned . The weather has been daytime around zero and -15F last night and tonight . Highway 9 and 21 were closed again last night . Probably now too. At the moment we are on the way back from driver training for the youngest . Traveling on county roads and cow paths.
6-8" of light powder snow that whips up into zero visabilify and snow drifts.
Supposed to be 20F tomorrow and about 30F Monday . It gets cold on a sled at 0F with the wind chill of 40mph. Being lake view from Lake Huron and open water will change the weather in minutes with a direction shift.
Today, tomorrow and Monday is free riding on the trails without having to purchase a trail pass .
I won't purchase a full priced frail pass 3/4 of the way through the season on four sleds. although two sleds are older than the kids and are discounted as vintage.

 

[kpack]

If this were my tractor I would have the intake preheat , coolant heater and block heater. Why not you only live once. None of them are that expensive I don't know why they are a option.
I ask in a earlier post how the coolant heater works but didn't see the answer .

 

[buickanddeere]

coolant heater can be a block heater, tank heater or a rad hose heater. rad hose heater can tend to heat the radiator more than the engine unless the installation is well planned.

 

[jd110]

Looks like your friend bought her tractor new in April 2010 according to the serial number you provided. So I would say the filter is overdue to be changed. Has the oil and filter been changed? Is the oil filter green as well?

On you coolant heater question, the heater is nothing more than a heating element similar to what is used in a home hot water heater. It has a built in thermostat to keep from overheating, but there is no pump to circulate coolant. It relies on the coolant transferring heat and gradually heating entire engine. If an external tank heater is used, the coolant is transferred from the tank heater to the engine block by natural thermo-siphon action. The hot coolant rises and flows into the upper connection to the engine and that draws cooler coolant from the lower connection into the tank heater.

 

[kpack]

Thanks for the coolant explaination . Yes she needs a oil change and fuel filter change.
The lady rides cutting horses and doesn't pay attention to her tractors maintenance .
Thanks for reading the yr model and to all the others who have helped. Hope I can help out in the future. Right now I'm just dreaming of of owning a green tractor. We do have a new 2025r jd at work about 2 yrs old with a backhoe attachment and front end bucket. . It's for small jobs to get into tight spots.

 

[kpack]

I got the oil , oil filter and fuel filter for the tractor but have not changed it yet. I got 15w -40
Plus50 -11 from jd. I'll change everything for her soon.