Wood storage

[turnkey4099]

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I have heard of ricks, face cords and cords but this is the first I have heard of Federal cords. Are Federal cords approved by the EPA? :laughing::laughing::laughing:

We called a half cord a rick but I think some people on TBN say a rick is a 1/3 of a cord? A face cord I guess is a 1/3 of a full cord and a full cord seems to be a Federal Cord. Then there is the pick up truck cord. :shocked::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Learned something new today. :thumbsup:

Later,
Dan

Dictionary definition of a rick is any pile one item wide by however long you want to build it. 3pcs could be arick or on out to iniinity.

There is no legal definition of a rick of wood. When posting to forums such as this one shouild stick with measures known to all, ie.e, cords or fractions thereof.

Harry K

 

[TnAndy]

Dictionary definition of a rick is any pile one item wide by however long you want to build it. 3pcs could be arick or on out to iniinity.

There is no legal definition of a rick of wood. When posting to forums such as this one shouild stick with measures known to all, ie.e, cords or fractions thereof.

Harry K

Equally dumb are "face cords"....that also seems to mean about anything one wants. I asked a guy once using that term if I cut the wood 3" long, and manage to get it to stack in a 4' high by 8' long row, does that qualify as a 'face' cord ?

Then, of course, there is the most dumb of all...a 'pickup load', which is how 90% of it is sold around here...long bed, short bed, wide bed, narrow bed, stacked in it, thrown in it, etc ? Unbelievable that people will put up with that kind of foolishness.

 

[Zerk]

Equally dumb are "face cords"....that also seems to mean about anything one wants. I asked a guy once using that term if I cut the wood 3" long, and manage to get it to stack in a 4' high by 8' long row, does that qualify as a 'face' cord ?

Then, of course, there is the most dumb of all...a 'pickup load', which is how 90% of it is sold around here...long bed, short bed, wide bed, narrow bed, stacked in it, thrown in it, etc ? Unbelievable that people will put up with that kind of foolishness.

Face cord is a 1/3 of cord, and has a definition. To ask if you could cut firewood with a chainsaw 3" long is dumb question. He must have thought you were an idiot for asking. But volume is volume.

There was a time when a man only had a full size bed.

To me this is just a whiney foolish post.

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks SpringHollow! That bender looks pretty useful.

 

[murphy1244]

I never heard the term face cord till TBN.

 

[PILOON]

Around here most of us use old roofing tin sheets.
Generally it is 36-39" wide and we bend the sides about 45 degrees to shed water away from the stack and place 2-3 rocks or sometimes a log or 2 to weigh down the 'roof'.
That way very little water gets to the wood and the logs are well air dried.
Sun shineing down on the tin assures nice heat to further dry the wood.

Very little old tin roofing ever makes it to the re cycle depot!

 

[motownbrowne]

Face cord is a 1/3 of cord, and has a definition. To ask if you could cut firewood with a chainsaw 3" long is dumb question. He must have thought you were an idiot for asking. But volume is volume.

There was a time when a man only had a full size bed.

To me this is just a whiney foolish post.

Jeez, whiney and foolish...?

No need to get personal. And, as I understand it, your wrong anyway. A face cord is usually 1/3 of a cord, but there isn't a legal definition of a face cord. I did look it up and found that yes, it's usually 1/3, but a better definition is that it's a stack 4'x8'x whatever the length of your splits is. If your firewood is cut to 12", a face cord is 1/4 of a full cord. If your wood is cut to 24" it's half a cord.

It would probably be a better term if it was actually defined and regulated to be 1/3 of a cord. Until then, though it's a term that'll continue to cause some confusion.

 

[Zerk]

I've never heard any confusion before.

 

[PILOON]

Then to add to the confusing terms, many sell 'semi sec' (half dry) eg should be dry by the time U use it. LOL
Then is 'mixed' (usually translates that less than 50% is hard wood)
Some actually state 'ambiance wood' meaning it is all soft wood (but nice crackling sounds). Probably the more honest representation.
They neglect to warn you about the creosote accumulations.

I have purchased maple that was so 'green' that maple syrup would boil out as it burned. (Nice aroma!)

Never measure that 'cord' as generally you'll find it 10-20% short, rarely will it be 16" X 4' X 8' !
Have had vendors say 'it shrunk as it dried', yeah LOL.
Then some will cut 'mixed', like 14" 15" but rarely 16" to make that 'true face cord' that they claim.

Our lumber yards are probably the best source for small buys as they have nice dry, all hard wood, pallet stacked and wrapped plus they deliver with a boom truck so handling is at minimum.

On the other hand with all the new environmental laws nobody will be able to afford to burn wood shortly.

 

[GLyford]

Different state laws and weights-and-measures departments regulate the sale of firewood in different ways (or not at all). In MA, only cords or fractional cords are allowed as measure, but you will still see other units (pickup loads, bundles, wheelbarrow loads, pallets, etc.) in ads. Other states as I understand it do allow (and define) such things as ricks and face cords. So where you are matters.

There is also one more wrinkle...I have heard it said that the cord is measured at the 4' "cordwood" length, before cutting to stove length, and after cutting it may or may not stack out to full measure and still be legal, but I am not sure how true that is. I do know that any time my wife buys wood, that last 1/10th of a cord or so looks a lot like bark...