Who uses dual tilt cylinders? I do...

[ovrszd]

Richard, if your side link is set up so that the rod is extended half way to be level, you get the same angle of cut to either side. Yes the downward movement is greater on the cylinder side, but that downward movement is matched by the upward movement, so the actual angle is the same cutting to the right or left sides. The only difference is that the entire hitch has to move further downward if cutting on the opposite side of the cylinder, the angle is the same.

Yeah, I think we're all in agreement, just not in expressing it. If I'm sitting on flat ground, BB sitting flat, and I decide to cut a 3" slice with the non-adjustable side it takes more than 3" of movement with the right side cylinder. Now, if I'm "handy" I can adjust the 3pt while at the same time adjusting the cylinder and get close to the same effect. That's what I meant about the action required and reaction gained being different. I do know it requires 3pt movement as well as tilt movement to get much action on the left side.

 

[jenkinsph]

Landscape loaders such as the Deere 210 series use tilt cylinders on both sides. I am building a set of rear caster wheels now for my box blade and will have tilt on each side independently controlled.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Landscape loaders such as the Deere 210 series use tilt cylinders on both sides. I am building a set of rear caster wheels now for my box blade and will have tilt on each side independently controlled.

I am fairly certain that all the industrial machines are now coming with double hydraulic side links as well as 3pt down pressure. But those are quite different animals than what our utility tractors are. I'm sure that they have their reasoning behind that decision, I am not aware of what that might be for sure.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Dynamic range.

 

[Henro]

Bill, please explain what you personally gain by having both side links hydraulic?

Sorry for the late response! I do not seem to get here as often as I used in in the last decade!

The dual tilt cylinders give more (easily done) tilt availability than a single cylinder plus manually adjusted second side link does. Also having float on one of the cylinders allows the implement to follow complex curves, when plowing snow for example. I have gage wheels that I swap between my rear blade and landscape rake...

I think the net result is just a bit more adjustability...flexibility...

Bill

 

[Henro]

Interesting to see some others are using dual tilt cylinders as well. As I mentioned above, having float on one of the cylinders can be a wonderful advantage sometimes...

I can also swap hoses and put the float action onto the top link, which extends the range of up and down motion at the back end of the rotary cutter when running over very uneven surfaces.

Bill

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Sorry for the late response! I do not seem to get here as often as I used in in the last decade!

The dual tilt cylinders give more (easily done) tilt availability than a single cylinder plus manually adjusted second side link does. Also having float on one of the cylinders allows the implement to follow complex curves, when plowing snow for example. I have gage wheels that I swap between my rear blade and landscape rake...

I think the net result is just a bit more adjustability...flexibility...

Bill

All of that is easily accomplished with a single cylinder built to have the implement level at mid stroke. I am a HUGE advocate of having the float function feature for both top & tilt cylinders.

The 2 main reasons that people ask me about having twin cylinders is more tilt, which you can vary rarely really take advantage of and the ability to exert down pressure which is not a good idea with a tractor that is not built to do that.

Thanks for coming back and answering though.

 

[ovrszd]

I would agree that the cost effectiveness of two cylinders might not be there. I don't agree that the same flexibility can be accomplished with one. That's just not the case.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I would agree that the cost effectiveness of two cylinders might not be there. I don't agree that the same flexibility can be accomplished with one. That's just not the case.

Richard, other than using an offset rear blade that needs to be extremely tilted for cleaning out an existing ditch or even cutting a new ditch, which by the way you could do with the blade itself and then fine tune with the hydraulic side link, please give me some examples.

I know of no legitimate reason that a double set will work any better than a single unit. Maybe I'm just not thinking outside the box, I can always learn, please inform.

 

[ovrszd]

I already did explain. Read back, you'll find it.