I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive

   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #11  
I use limestone dust exclusively. It packs like crazy with just a little traffic, but also get's tracked into the house like crazy, especially at first. It also washes out on slopes like crazy. Had to repair it four times this year already. But I still like it better then "A" gravel.
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #12  
Key piece if information is missing here.....how thick did you spread it?

If more than 3-4" thick, then you arent getting it properly compacted, and the only thing that will correct that is either time or lots of rain.

How long is this driveway.

General rule of thumb is 20 tons will do 100' of driveway, 10' wide, 4" thick. So did you do 1000' of driveway with 200t?

I would NOT add any fines of any kind to it. No sand, no limestone dust, no nothing. At least not until you determine the problem, or you could make things worse. You got 3/4 minus and 1/2 minus. You should already have LOTS of fines. So either post pics of a sample here, or take to the supplier like mentioned and ask.

Around here, we have 304's (1-1/2 minus) and 411's (3/4 minus). A 4" thick layer, you can pack and pack and pack with tires, roller, whatever. But still remains loose and "workable". Even a light duty rear blade would still cut in afterword. But after the first rain and it drys out....its like concrete. And even a heavy blade will just chatter across the surface.

another mistake people make with this type of stone, is trying to overwork it with a blade or landscape rake. All you do is let the fines settle to the bottom, and keep dragging the large stones to the top. More of an issue with the 304's (1-1/2 minus).

Also, you mentioned not liking the dust getting tracked into the barn. The nature of this type of stone (whatever-minus) HAS lots of dust particles. Makes an excellent base. But still has the dust. If you want to rid the dust, you will need to go back over with a ~1" thick top coat of a washed uniform size stone. Around here, we call them #8's (3/8-1/2" pea sized stuff), or 57's (~3/4-1" large marble sized stuff).

So.......
1. How thick did you spread it?
2. Has it been rained on pretty good?
3. Does it look like it has plenty of fines/dusty partials?
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #13  
We live in granite country. It is hard rock and IMHO did not compact well. We laid a base of "breaker/crusher run" and coated with a thick layer of chips. Then we drove on it for a couple of years and let the snowplow guy do what snow-plow guys do. After a few years when we knew where the dips and peaks were, we coated again with a guy that knew how to run his dump-truck. The drive is not all that long/wide but I know there is a pile of rock on it.
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #14  
Keep in mind quarrys can screen the material and get the fines out of it.
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive
  • Thread Starter
#15  
Key piece if information is missing here.....how thick did you spread it?

If more than 3-4" thick, then you arent getting it properly compacted, and the only thing that will correct that is either time or lots of rain.

How long is this driveway.

General rule of thumb is 20 tons will do 100' of driveway, 10' wide, 4" thick. So did you do 1000' of driveway with 200t?

I would NOT add any fines of any kind to it. No sand, no limestone dust, no nothing. At least not until you determine the problem, or you could make things worse. You got 3/4 minus and 1/2 minus. You should already have LOTS of fines. So either post pics of a sample here, or take to the supplier like mentioned and ask.

Around here, we have 304's (1-1/2 minus) and 411's (3/4 minus). A 4" thick layer, you can pack and pack and pack with tires, roller, whatever. But still remains loose and "workable". Even a light duty rear blade would still cut in afterword. But after the first rain and it drys out....its like concrete. And even a heavy blade will just chatter across the surface.

another mistake people make with this type of stone, is trying to overwork it with a blade or landscape rake. All you do is let the fines settle to the bottom, and keep dragging the large stones to the top. More of an issue with the 304's (1-1/2 minus).

Also, you mentioned not liking the dust getting tracked into the barn. The nature of this type of stone (whatever-minus) HAS lots of dust particles. Makes an excellent base. But still has the dust. If you want to rid the dust, you will need to go back over with a ~1" thick top coat of a washed uniform size stone. Around here, we call them #8's (3/8-1/2" pea sized stuff), or 57's (~3/4-1" large marble sized stuff).

So.......
1. How thick did you spread it?
2. Has it been rained on pretty good?
3. Does it look like it has plenty of fines/dusty partials?


3" thick for the most part.
It has not been rained on yet. My site does not have water yet so watering is difficult.
The size varies greatly but I don't really see dust or what I call 'crusher fines' in the mix.
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #16  
Can you post some pics of what you have?
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive
  • Thread Starter
#17  
Can you post some pics of what you have?

I will be up at the property later this week and get some pictures.

Thanks everyone!
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #18  
I realize it might take a year where you are, but I suspect the behavior will change once it has been wet.
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #19  
Information on building and maintaining gravel roads. It may be interesting. Lots of pictures which I like. Shows how a grader blade works which is interesting. Just a tad different than a box blade. The information may also be more representative and factual than "What I Did".

[video]http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/construction/pubs/ots15002.pdf[/video]
 
   / I think I have screwed up on my Gravel Drive #20  
Fabric . You are pumping the water every time you use the drive .
 

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