Buying Advice R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe?

   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #11  
Although a fan of R-1's; for the uses you mentioned I agree with others that the R4's may serve you better overall.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe?
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#12  
Although a fan of R-1's; for the uses you mentioned I agree with others that the R4's may serve you better overall.

Looks like your tractor has R1's on it. How do you like them?
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #13  
I appreciate all the benefits my R1's provide (most mentioned in previous posts), but when doing a lot of FEL work they get pushed to their limits. The sidewall strength would be better with R4's, for both FEL and backhoe work. I think that alone would more than make up for the traction difference. If I was doing it over for my use, I would go with R1's. If I was getting a backhoe I would get R4's.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #14  
I have more or less the same machine minus hoe... L3200. I'm very happy with my loaded R4s. R1 might be better plowing snow, or pull a few more lbs in my box blade, but the lack of turf damage, extra strength & better carrying capacity outweigh the minimal benefits for me.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #15  
On hard/dry surfaces, there is little difference in traction.

When things soften up....like plowed fields, or in the spring thaw with the "smeary" on top, or in full blown muck, or deep snow......R1's have twice the traction IMO.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe?
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On hard/dry surfaces, there is little difference in traction. When things soften up....like plowed fields, or in the spring thaw with the "smeary" on top, or in full blown muck, or deep snow......R1's have twice the traction IMO.


Yeah they really bite in and get down to the solid ground.

I think I'm going with R1's... Against the popular vote! Haha
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #17  
I have both and like the R4's for yard work done in dry weather. Lawn mowing kind of things. No ruts because no traction in bad situations.

For me, I only use R1's in the field because they give more traction, more clearance and are more nimble in field conditions. My neighbor has R4's and dislikes them in the field. To use on the lawn, I just stay off when it's wet or soft. No problem.

For instance I just moved some rocks off a side of the lawn with a 10,000 lb tractor. The ground is dry and hard, however so nary a scratch.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #18  
For instance I just moved some rocks off a side of the lawn with a 10,000 lb tractor. The ground is dry and hard, however so nary a scratch.

You not getting any of this rain?

Probably had a much needed 1-1/2" in the last 3 days.

Yard still firm enough not to rut, but it leaves cleat marks. And getting in the garden results in 10# boots after a few steps
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #19  
You not getting any of this rain?

Probably had a much needed 1-1/2" in the last 3 days.

Yard still firm enough not to rut, but it leaves cleat marks. And getting in the garden results in 10# boots after a few steps

Not to derail, but we had 3.2" last night.

Things are pretty soggy out there, but no puddles that I can see.

To keep it on topic, I won't be driving my 5,000#+ Kubota with R1s over the lawn until next week if I can avoid it. The 3,000# New Holland with R4s can go anywhere as early as this evening and not leave any evidence.
 
   / R1 or R4 tires for L2501 with loader and backhoe? #20  
Yeah they really bite in and get down to the solid ground.

I think I'm going with R1's... Against the popular vote! Haha
Good. ... The larger diameter gives a more compliant ground contact for ride and traction.
Run fronts at max pressure or 20% over for heavy loader work and theyll do well.
 

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