Sicma vs Ansung tiller

[jeff9366]

I recommend a HydrauLink replacement Top Link when operating Roto-tillers, Box Blades and Landscape Rakes.

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[Catman8]

How are the tines driven? Center mounted car rear end types leave a untilled area in the middle that the side mount chains or gears drives do not. Side mount gears/chains till more uniformly. There is 90 lbs more of something in the Ansung! That's 23% more for less $.

Both of these models are chain driven on the end, does 90 extra pounds equal a quality built machine or just extra steel? And I'm not implying that the Ansung is not quality, I don't know, if I took and welded a 90 pound piece of steel to the Sicma for extra weight would it make the difference.

 

[Catman8]

All I can say is I have the Ansung YJR074 and I am running it with 26.5 HP - supposed to take 50. However as I have a hydro tractor I can slow down and let it work. It is built like a tank - No problems. You want a tiller wide enough to cover you tractor tracks. Many times the HP rating is to get a heavier tractor to lift and operate. In tillers weight is your friend so they do not bounce as much. As for less tines not giving a smooth bed, I call foul - you just need to go a bit slower on the final pass and it will be fluffy and smooth.

The YJC is chain driven - I would recommend moving up to the gear driven YJR062 which is heavier and has more tines. YJR Series It is a more durable unit.

Can my tractor handle a YJR062, I don't want to get something that my tractor can't handle. I don't mind spending a lot of money as long as I get a well built tiller that will last. Do you feel that you are over stressing your tractor running the HD tiller.

 

[Catman8]

More tines means you will need more hp, but it will do a better job too...

I'm NOT fond of tillers with less tines on the flanges and wouldn't buy one!

Personally, i'd be looking at one of the better models of Maschio or Kuhn tillers... But, with only 23hp you wouldn't be able to power a HD tiller as wide as you are looking at.

Well built HD tillers cost a lot of $ too, probably more than you are willing to pay...

SR

Who sells Maschio and Kuhn, you have a link to an online distributor.

 

[Rocky Hoffler]

I HAVE A SICMA 6 FT TILLER I PROABLY USE IT ABOUT 100 HOURS A YEAR IT HAS BEEN THE BEST I HAVE EVER USED CLIENTS COMMENT ON HOW GOOD GOOD A JOB IT DOES

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Who sells Maschio and Kuhn, you have a link to an online distributor.

Beats me?? They are sold numerous places around here...

I'm from a generation that likes to look tools over and see for myself how they are built, going on line and reading brochures or asking owners about how a certain tiller held up in an acre or two a year, or for a few garden spots each year does not make a HD long lasting tiller.

I've been doing commercial tilling since the 80's, so I buy equipment that's made to last, so asking some one who tills a few gardens a year, just won't tell me how good a tiller is.

This Howard tiller is coming up on 2000 acres that "I" have tilled with it, and I bought it used!!

It's chain drive and sprockets are all original and still in GREAT shape, I prefer chain drive to gear drive as it takes shock loads better.

I have two other Howards with chain drive that are all original too...

SR

 

[powerscol]

Can my tractor handle a YJR062, I don't want to get something that my tractor can't handle. I don't mind spending a lot of money as long as I get a well built tiller that will last. Do you feel that you are over stressing your tractor running the HD tiller.

I think you can handle it, but it will be maxed out. You have hydro-static drive so you should be OK. Being from California there should be dealers that have these in stock you can check out. Haul you tractor there and try. Also look around with agg rental folks or some big rental places and see what they have. I got mine used out of my local Agg rental place. Woods and Howard are also good choices. Good luck in you choice

 

[Catman8]

Thanks everyone for your advice, I also like to see equipment in person, unfortunately not many places around here stock attachments for you to look at and compare. I have never owned a tiller, do you drag the tiller on the ground or is the tractors three point holding most of the weight at a set height?

 

[spruce Deere]

I have an old 48" maletti p-120S that was built in '78 and is In excellent shape other than needing tines now... I bought it used and till probably close to 20 acres yearly with it. Since i owned it the only issue I had was the O.E PTO shaft splitting and one O.E u-joint go bad. I keep it greased, good oil in the boxes and grind away with it. I'm sure the brand new price of the maletti was less than a howard or "main brand names" back then.

Rumor I hear is kuhn bought out maletti tillers. Also heard that maletti built tillers for Kubota and other implement companies.

I just updated to a 60" King Kutter tiller but have been plagued with rain preventing me from really giving it a good run yet. Lots of kk tillers out there with very good reviews and comments. Uncle has one and it does not live an easy life in his rocky dirt and has never a problem over the years of tilling he has done.

I did hear the 647, 665, 672 if my model numbers are correct, line of deere 3pt tillers are just green sicma 3pt tillers. I did look both over and would believe that speculation to be true.

 

[powerscol]

Thanks everyone for your advice, I also like to see equipment in person, unfortunately not many places around here stock attachments for you to look at and compare. I have never owned a tiller, do you drag the tiller on the ground or is the tractors three point holding most of the weight at a set height?

Three point does not lift during operation (except to turn around, then you kill the PTO, lift and reset). You set the side skids for the tilling depth per instructions, drop the tiller on the ground and go. It will seek its on depth depending on the ground condition and speed. trick is not to go too deep all at once as that puts a lot of load on the tractor. Now having said all the above, I have used my 3 pt to adjust the height as I go depending on conditions. It easy to get the hang of if you go slow and pay attention. Just dont sit and bang on a rock I strongly suggest trying to rent one to get a feel for what you can handle. There hast to be someplace around you that rents. Call around to the Agg dealers and rental shops, even if you need to drive and hour - it would be well worth it.