Logger ripped off my neighbors

[4570Man]

It looks like all pine. Around here it's not worth a dime. It would cost more in fuel not to mention labor to clean it up than it's worth. If someone asked me to clean that up I would charge them to haul it off and burn it all in a burn pile.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

It looks like all pine. Around here it's not worth a dime. It would cost more in fuel not to mention labor to clean it up than it's worth. If someone asked me to clean that up I would charge them to haul it off and burn it all in a burn pile.

Pine is a common building material and heating fuel in Eastern WA. not much fir in that area.

Ron

 

[4570Man]

Pine is a common building material and heating fuel in Eastern WA. not much fir in that area. Ron

The wood pictured is below saw grade. Pine or fir are poor firewoods. For that matter any species of firewood is worth very little in log or round form. I don't burn many of my own trees. I can haul in all of the free wood I want. Mostly oak. If the wood was worth anything the logger would have taken it.

 

[hslogger]

(Good suggestions, thanks. Are there any sites to help educate us? Previously, the lot has already been thinned out of everything but the hardiest and mature trees, which the last picture would show from the foreground. All of the pictures were taken after the trees were taken. )

(The neighbor told me that she did call one of the two mills that took the trees and a guy stopped by to take a look and he told her that it was unacceptable and that they are holding payment for the time being so there's a possible resolution.)

my reply......
I am sure there is a small woodlands association of some sort in your area.Small woodland owners get together,learn and support one another with advice and sharing on paper, with field trips, and references as to local and not so local markets, operators, permits, and so on. In Oregon we have state small woodlands, and then there are regional, i.e. county woodland associations. If you can't come up with any leads, just go to your county extension agent for a start. Good luck on supporting your neighbors and hope the story ends on a positive note.

 

[Aquamoose]

The wood pictured is below saw grade. Pine or fir are poor firewoods. For that matter any species of firewood is worth very little in log or round form. I don't burn many of my own trees. I can haul in all of the free wood I want. Mostly oak. If the wood was worth anything the logger would have taken it.

That pile were discards/ends, he already TOOK 4 trucks of the best, which is not pictured as I didn't get the chance. There are two mills close by that are massive in scale and regularly turn local pine / fit into processed wood for HD, Lowe's, etc.

Everybody from their Aunt Sally to Uncle Jed burns pine & fir, which consists of 95% of the trees here. Are you suggesting that we should grow oak & other types and use them for firewood while throwing the pin/fir to the backwoods because they are poor choices of wood to burn? Your analogy is for people NOT to drive a Yugo or a Pinto if they are the ONLY two cars available for hundreds of miles.

 

[Aquamoose]

I am sure there is a small woodlands association of some sort in your area.Small woodland owners get together,learn and support one another with advice and sharing on paper, with field trips, and references as to local and not so local markets, operators, permits, and so on. In Oregon we have state small woodlands, and then there are regional, i.e. county woodland associations. If you can't come up with any leads, just go to your county extension agent for a start. Good luck on supporting your neighbors and hope the story ends on a positive note.

Thank you, I definitely will be doing my research & using google to get some info. I hope it will turn out positive too!

 

[beowulf]

I don't know if this would pertain, but if the logger was in this kind of business (and the fact that he had a contract may mean yes) and in that jurisdiction, that kind of work required a contractor's license and he did not have one, you should consider contacting the state's contractor's license board. Or at least inquire of them what, if any, requirements for licensing there would have been in this circumstance.

 

[Aquamoose]

I didn't think of that, I'll look into whether he has a license of any sort. Thanks!

 

[4570Man]

That pile were discards/ends, he already TOOK 4 trucks of the best, which is not pictured as I didn't get the chance. There are two mills close by that are massive in scale and regularly turn local pine / fit into processed wood for HD, Lowe's, etc. Everybody from their Aunt Sally to Uncle Jed burns pine & fir, which consists of 95% of the trees here. Are you suggesting that we should grow oak & other types and use them for firewood while throwing the pin/fir to the backwoods because they are poor choices of wood to burn? Your analogy is not for people to drive a Yugo or a Pinto if they are the ONLY two cars available for hundreds of miles.

With that aside, how much is unsplit firewood worth?

 

[Aquamoose]

I know that it averages about $220-$250 a cord for split seasoned wood around here.

Unsplit likely around $180 to $220.