.22LR Ammo

   / .22LR Ammo #41  
One round that I've found to be pretty decent and not that expensive, Federal AM22

Agreed, Gunny. Of all our .22s, the Wife's Walther P22 is the only one that is super finicky. Those AutoMatch are the only rounds that feed/shoot/eject consistently from that hateful little thing. So, we just buy them now as bulk shooters for everything. For the price, it's a surprisingly good round.
 
   / .22LR Ammo #42  
My P22 does ok with Remington brand ammo. Not so well with Winchester... But its a fine weapon, with me nearly every time I walk out of the house for farm chores, often offthe farm also.
 
   / .22LR Ammo #43  
I had my Ruger pistol loaded with CCI Stingers which I thought was the hottest 22LR there was. Then I watch a test (sorry, can't find the link) were a guy shot them into gelatin with a 16" barrel rifle, and then a short barreled pistol. They expanded and did a good job with the rifle, but from the pistol they never expanded and passed all the way thru the block. So all four mags unloaded of Stingers and loaded with a slower hollow point that should expand.

Completely off subject but I thought it was interesting.

RSKY
 
   / .22LR Ammo #44  
I buy most of my ammo using ammoseek.com. Never had an issue yet. Great search engine and you can refine you search in many ways. For those of you that seem to continually have to hunt locally for ammo, can you not buy online in your state? Below link is a simple search for 22LR, with no other filters.

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   / .22LR Ammo #45  
I buy most of my ammo using ammoseek.com. Never had an issue yet. Great search engine and you can refine you search in many ways. For those of you that seem to continually have to hunt locally for ammo, can you not buy online in your state? Below link is a simple search for 22LR, with no other filters.

22lr ammo rimfire

Thanks for the post. I've used ammoseek before so I went to their website and ended up ordering 1500 rounds. Thanks! (i think) :laughing:
 
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#47  
I really worked on my Model 25 and now I'm motivated to stock up on ammo.
Got it cleaned and oiled, inside and out and put some beeswax based wood polish on the walnut stock.
That came up very nicely, and half an hour after this pic I rubbed it off so the shine was gone but the satin finish was left.
Nice rifle, but I'd like one that is lighter. That wood is pretty but a lot to lug around.
 

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   / .22LR Ammo #48  
The major difference in "quiet" ammo is that it is loaded to a velocity that is sub-sonic. So the "crack" of the bullet breaking the sound barrier is absent. Of course, this also means lower muzzle and down-range energy, but still usually plenty adequate to dispatch smaller critters. And starting out slower means that the bullet runs out of energy sooner. So they are best for shorter ranges.

The major difference with quiet ammo is that they can charge more for .22 shorts. Are you old enough to remember the shooting galleries at carnivals? Over the noise of the midway, you couldn't hear them over 10' away. That's also where I learned to make speed loaders for tubular magazines, when I was about 10 years old.
 
   / .22LR Ammo #49  
Daugen, two things cause the sounds we hear from the firing of the .22LR cartridge.

First the sound level depends on the length of the barrel of the firearm we fire them in. The shorter the barrel the louder the muzzle blast as the hot gasses do not have a chance to cool in the shorter barrel. Also the longer barrel allows the gasses to expand along its length and cool down some, so the muzzle blast is less "explosive" as the bullet clears the barrel.

Second comes the "sonic crack" as the bullet in the air breaks the sound barrier. This is the exact same phenomenon as an sonic boom from a jet aircraft. While this velocity varies due to temperature and even humidity of the air, it is somewhere around 1200 fps or a little greater. So a bullet travelling less than 1200 fps will likely not produce this 'crack' sound. These bullets are said to be subsonic.

Ironically the identical round may have a crack sound when fired from a rifle but not produce the sonic crack when fired from a pistol, as the pistol may not be able to wring out the needed velocity out of the powder charge. BUT the pistol will always sound much louder due to the increased muzzle blast.

If we put a suppressor on the pistol and give a place for those hot muzzle gasses to expand slowly into its chambers and cool down before being released into the atmosphere this round can sound like a mouse fart. And since the sonic boom velocity is not reached by the bullet fired from the shorter pistol barrel, no 'crack' sound will be heard in the open air.

Also adding an ablative substance in the suppressor can further reduce muzzle blast sounds. These substances can include such things as wire pulling gel, vaseline, or even water. These substances help cool the gasses before they are released. But if the round from the pistol exceeds the sonic boom velocity then no amount of muzzle suppression will keep the sonic crack from occurring in the open air. This is why you see ammo listed as subsonic or standard velocity etc. Adding ablative substances is called shooting a "wet can". Several db's of sound suppression can be achieved by "wet cans"


As for hollow point vs. solid accuracy, that is a very difficult thing to say. The deviations in accuracy of different rounds in different firearms is greater than the deviations between the two types of bullets. There is some thought that some hollow point rounds may not be as concentric as they could be, and therefore might not be quite as accurate as possible.
I hope this little "book" helped.

The third thing that affects noise is the type of action. The common blowback actions popular nowadays vent gasses out the back and are pretty noisy. I have a Remington pump .22 that is much quieter than either a Ruger 10/22 or a Savage 70 firing the same ammo.
 
   / .22LR Ammo #50  
Now if everything I wanted didn't always come up out of stock...but makes sense to me that availability will improve. There must be an enormous amount of ammo
stored away in the heartland and in the mountains. Probably not as much in the cities. Folks simply cannot keep buying ammo at the rate they have been, setting all records.
All you aliens, don't come around here...and I mean that in my neighborhood too. Almost every guy I know has a gun safe with large weapon collections. And I hear them being
exercised late in the afternoon. Sometimes sounds like WWIII here.

So...having a quiet round for target practice appeals to me. Subsonic. Suggestions are always welcome.

People aren't hoarding any more. The shortage is due to all the new autoloaders on the market. People are shooting it up as fast as the factories can make it.
 

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