Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc..

   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #41  
spray them then cut them after they are dead
Ha.

Our orchard was sprayed to keep down weeds like in this stock photo, for a hundred years.

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After we went organic (apples were unsalable if not organic) lots of stuff lurking under the surface began to emerge. After the fourth year I took the backhoe out, and pulled out a lot of stuff like my photo below that years of spray + annual disking hadn't killed. This root is 'scrub oak' (like holly). Invasive Himalayan Blackberry (the other debris pile) often has a root node the size of a softball then multiple 3 ft deep roots. Both survive anything you do on the surface because of energy stored in the roots.

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'Brute force gardening' (backhoe removal) is the only thing I've found to eradicate stuff this durable.

I found another photo I posted here 11 years ago. This isn't the biggest blackberry root ball I've seen, but my only photo. Keychain for scale. Like the scrub oak root above, the taproot went down 3 feet to the wet layer above hardpan.

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   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #42  
Everyone has heard horror stories about snapping cables and chains... my dad was in the Navy in WWII, at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, helping to recover a crashed PBY. They were using a tug and cable to pull it, the cable snapped, and basically cut a man in half. He was dead before the ambulance arrived, and it was a death you would never forget. Even the stuff we CUT guys use can kill you in the wrong situation.
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #43  
Everyone has heard horror stories about snapping cables and chains... my dad was in the Navy in WWII, at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, helping to recover a crashed PBY. They were using a tug and cable to pull it, the cable snapped, and basically cut a man in half. He was dead before the ambulance arrived, and it was a death you would never forget. Even the stuff we CUT guys use can kill you in the wrong situation.

That is why I like to use chains in certain applications. I am afraid of snapping and whipping cables. For moving some boulders I will use towing straps at times.
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #44  
"That is why I like to use chains in certain applications. I am afraid of snapping and whipping cables. For moving some boulders I will use towing straps at times."

Roger that. Last mil document I read said to use a chain, which will not go flying if it breaks.

Cables, tow straps, snatch straps that all stretch, can work fine, but throw a blanket/towels/jacket over them to keep them flying to far and too fast.
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #45  
PS that last foto of the BG grabber: it has hand holds to open the jaws. My smaller one does not, and it is a strain to open the jaws. I think I will try a weaker spring.
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #46  
My rule is anything that stretches = needs a blanket.

-R
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc.. #48  
I'm still learning the vernacular. What's the difference?

By the bar, he means either a totally fixed draw bar under the rear axle that is solid or what is called the "swinging drawbar". Same thing only the swinging drawbar is on a pivot and can swing left and right, but not up and down. The three point lower two arms go up and down under hydraulic power for up and down by gravity. You can put a type of drawbar between them that can go up and down but if you pull from that bar and it is too high off of the ground because you have raised the 3pt lower arms via hydraulic pressure then this pull point can be so high that under some conditions it can pull your tractor over backwards in a flip that without a ROPS up can smash you and end you.

The tractor can rotate around the back axle in certain conditions. If this didn't make any sense, Please ask more questions..
 
   / Best way to yank out shrubs? Etc..
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I'm still learning the vernacular. What's the difference?

The drawbar is a thick metal bar with holes in it that slides into a slot under the rear axle - and should be the thing that you hook onto if you're doing any real towing. It's the lowest centre of gravity on the tractor and is THE place to tow from.
A towbar can be a bar that installs between each end of the 3-point hitch sway bars...you could put a ball or something on it, and raise it up and down with your 3point controls. It'll be ok to move something for a bit (provided it's not too heavy)...but a definite no-no from which tow anything substantial.
 

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