what on earth does electricity cost near you?

[Looking4new]

Gheez, Dave, I hope you don't have to pay those kinds of fees here in Ontario!��

No, he just needs to pay the tax on tax on the fuel he stores/uses for the genny. Don't forget the 4% cap and trad tax on top of all the other taxes.
Why do you think that fuel for a boat is so expensive? The argument is that boats are not used on the road so we shouldn't have to pay road use tax on the fuel, right? Well no we don't, but instead we pay 10% recreational tax. They got us coming and going.
My boat is big enough that I can't haul it out and trailer it to the gas station to fill the 378L tank.

 

[3930dave]

But the $800 annual permit fee to operate a Generator would add up quick... at least here in California... the Hazmat fee for 180 gallons of Diesel in a double containment tank plus the fee to the Bay Area Air Quality Management District and the prohibition on operation of a non-compliant older generator not meeting the required Tier Standard

The Super Market adjacent to the Hospital has Diesel Rigs that come and go all hours and refrigerator trucks that idle and they don't come under either of the Generator Fee schedules mentioned above.

You get beaten with the Stick, until you take the Carrot.

I like visiting certain parts of Cali, but could never see myself residing there. Even if I did have enough money.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

No, he just needs to pay the tax on tax on the fuel he stores/uses for the genny. Don't forget the 4% cap and trad tax on top of all the other taxes.
Why do you think that fuel for a boat is so expensive? The argument is that boats are not used on the road so we shouldn't have to pay road use tax on the fuel, right? Well no we don't, but instead we pay 10% recreational tax. They got us coming and going.

"Road" Tax.... yeah, coming and going.....

So I shouldn't be paying "Road" tax on the fuel I buy for my lawnmower, chainsaw, weedeater, generator.... ?

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Gheez, Dave, I hope you don't have to pay those kinds of fees here in Ontario!

Yet.

The McWynne ecoterrorists have patterned much of what they've done on Cali. I wouldn't be surprised if they privately admit that they want to out California Cali.

Scratch that, the premier has already gone on record as describing herself as "providing global Green Leadership". Though, she might have been talking about money...... :laughing::duh::banghead:

Glad to say, it's not my shop. If I set up a business, I can't see it being in this province.

Rgds, D.

 

[buickanddeere]

Wow. Last time I checked, my state had a decent tax subsidy for solar and the Fed still does as well. I guess the Canada governments do want to keep you on the hook.

The hard part with going off grid is batteries. LiFiPo batteries might change things if the price drops but even the cost of lead acid batteries is expensive compared given how many batteries most homes would need. And the batteries have a limited lifetime so one will have to replace the batteries periodically.

We would have to put in gas for the clothes dryer and maybe the hot water heater. Solar hot water heaters were very expensive when I looked into them a few years ago, however, with the price drop of panels it might be cheaper to just use an electric hot water heater.

Then we need AC which is very difficult to do from PV. Possible but just increases the costs.

If we manage to sell everything and buy a boat, we will be off grid with a generator, PV and wind power generation. :laughing:

Later,
Dan

Yet.

The McWynne ecoterrorists have patterned much of what they've done on Cali. I wouldn't be surprised if they privately admit that they want to out California Cali.

Scratch that, the premier has already gone on record as describing herself as "providing global Green Leadership". Though, she might have been talking about money...... :laughing::duh::banghead:

Glad to say, it's not my shop. If I set up a business, I can't see it being in this province.

Rgds, D.

It is not Dalton, Wynne or Trudeau. The puppet master controlling them is a brilliant and dangerous Gerald Butts.

 

[90cummins]

I live in Massachusetts and have a grid tie solar system and at times have two bills in the winter when my solar output is low.
During the summer when my solar is working I pay 10.3 cents per kw.
If I buy from the utility I pay 22.0 cents per kw.
This is the delivered price taking the amount owed and dividing by the kw's used.
90cummins

 

[Zerk]

But the $800 annual permit fee to operate a Generator would add up quick... at least here in California... the Hazmat fee for 180 gallons of Diesel in a double containment tank plus the fee to the Bay Area Air Quality Management District and the prohibition on operation of a non-compliant older generator not meeting the required Tier Standard

The Super Market adjacent to the Hospital has Diesel Rigs that come and go all hours and refrigerator trucks that idle and they don't come under either of the Generator Fee schedules mentioned above.

If you were to move to the US, you wouldn't have those fees.

 

[3930dave]

It is not Dalton, Wynne or Trudeau. The puppet master controlling them is a brilliant and dangerous Gerald Butts.

Yep, guys like Butts are the rainmakers. The talking heads supply the face and ego to appear as the Green Heroes, here to save us. A symbiotic, and yes, dangerous, relationship.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

I live in Massachusetts and have a grid tie solar system and at times have two bills in the winter when my solar output is low.
During the summer when my solar is working I pay 10.3 cents per kw.
If I buy from the utility I pay 22.0 cents per kw.
This is the delivered price taking the amount owed and dividing by the kw's used.
90cummins

Your Buy rate is on the high end of our Peak rate, maybe higher.

Taxachusetts indeed. I didn't think USA rates were that high, outside of Cali.

Rgds, D.

 

[Zerk]

East coast is expensive, they are like CA in many ways. Commies.