Calcium in tires, no longer a fan......

[sixdogs]

Where does one who wants to join your wheel weight army and get away from the dark side, find wheel weights and for how much $$? As near as I can tell, 24 gal/tire = 240 both of my tires = 480lbs of ballast weight I need to replace with wheel weights.

Wheel weight army has a nice ring to it.

There is an equal army in favor of liquid weights so it's a standoff. Weights just work better for me based on the experience of replacing rotted wheels and tubes and the muck and grime of a flat two miles from the house and back in the woods. I didn't always think this way but when I added up the cost of an expensive rotted wheel problem, weights would have been cheaper. Plus, I could have sold the weights when I eventually sold the tractor to get my money back. We all have different applications so my flat ground ag and landscape use today is different that the woods-slope daily use of others.

You do have me, however since liquid sure feels better in a pucker situation on a slope.




Here you go ovrszd----Here's a thread I did on washer fluid that is not supposed to corrode wheels:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/360582-think-washer-fluid-rear-tires.html

 

[arrow]

Yeah that's what I've been reading what little I find about the stuff, lot different than what the sales guy was saying at the JD place, he said it's like beet juice, similar to Rimguard.
I think I'm under a Rimguard curse, 2-1/2 years ago I tried to get the Union Farm Kubota place to change my tires, the only place I know of that sells RG that's near me, I call, they tell me, real busy now, might be able in couple weeks, fast forward this week, I call, we'll the tire guy is sick might not be able to get to it till next week. I call other places, yup we can do the tires today or tomorrow, problem is sofar the places that tell me that, don't sell Rimguard,
makes me wonder if RG is the 8th wonder of the world, why isn't it more available, here there and everywhere, all everyone want to sell is the rim killing chloride stuff.

Oh my word don't I know it. Around here it's as if it's as precious as an unhatched tyrannosaurus egg that can still make an omelet. It seems one has to me a member of the 3rd Order of the Queens Guard to purchase it.

 

[ovrszd]

Here you go ovrszd----Here's a thread I did on washer fluid that is not supposed to corrode wheels:

Good thread!!!! I remember reading that one. I have no defense to that one!!!!

I've had WWF installed for five years. I'm not going to break one down to check on rim condition though!!!!

 

[fried1765]

Long term.

Show me one rim ruined by rust from WWF or Antifreeze or Rimguard.

Can't do it!
But, I CAN show you 4 rims ruined by CaCl.
Don't know why I am still hanging on to them.
Pack rat syndrome, I guess.

 

[sixdogs]

Good thread!!!! I remember reading that one. I have no defense to that one!!!!

I've had WWF installed for five years. I'm not going to break one down to check on rim condition though!!!!

Well, you don't have to. Just look at the pictures I posted and visualize yours as the same but most likely worse. Even better, the wheels on your M9540, as well as the Ford, are somewhat of a proprietary item meaning they aren't universal and as a result cost lots 'O dollars. Want to join my wheel weight army now?

Actually, your wheels are probably fine because you are so on top of things and any problem would be immediately fixed.

 

[ovrszd]

Well, you don't have to. Just look at the pictures I posted and visualize yours as the same but most likely worse. Even better, the wheels on your M9540, as well as the Ford, are somewhat of a proprietary item meaning they aren't universal and as a result cost lots 'O dollars. Want to join my wheel weight army now?

Actually, you're wheels are probably fine because you are so on top of things and any problem would be immediately fixed.

I don't know about on top of things. I try to be an action guy rather than a reaction guy but sometimes it don't work out.....

I bought new rims for the Ford after I got it. Changed size. $110 per rim. Kubota would be higher but not over $250 per rim.

I ain't takin em apart. You and I will have to stick around here on TBN until they rot out to get final results. I'll start a thread when they do!!!!

 

[Oldpath05]

<<<<<<<<<<<<Tires are back on, what was done was get rid of the calcium, >> put in new tubes, must be the Parts at $86.46 for two,> fill with Ballast Star, slip says 25 gal. in ea. tire, sounds like a lot to me for AG 11.2-24. >> then 15-20 psi.

This seemed like a reasonable price to me if it's done right and or once on two tires, hate to pay it again on these same tires, adds up quick. I could save the labor charge of $233.55 if I do it myself, but how many here would of done that work for that price. But maybe I should look at what's needed for tire changing equipment anyways just so I can have some fun changing tires to, or everyones busy and tractor is needed ASAP. I know 1> an affordable ballast transfer pump is needed along with the valve core connecter, 2>> Valve core cable holder, 3>> couple tire irons, but what length/kind? 4>> then what about bead breaking? what if the tire is stubborn, use the tractor bucket? 4>>The last thing and the most important is ambition, use to know where to get that.

 

[mcfarmall]

You know that Ballast Star is good ol' calcium chloride solution with a quart or two of oil "corrosion inhibitor" thrown in that floats on the surface of the fluid and coats the steel rim as it rotates. For a few bucks more per tire I went with a beet juice based product TL 90. A recent rim change on the Farmall C due to CaCl corrosion ran me $795...and I re-used the old tires.

To me it's worth the extra $$. Some folks on here spend $30-50k on a new tractor and complain about a few cents per gallon for ballast. I don't get it.

 

[teg]

...with a quart or two of oil "corrosion inhibitor" thrown in...

Hum... Is it worth it to try and add a couple quarts of used motor oil in there??? I got several sitting around doing nothing for me now... :confused3::confused3::confused3:

 

[Oldpath05]

You know that Ballast Star is good ol' calcium chloride solution with a quart or two of oil "corrosion inhibitor" thrown in that floats on the surface of the fluid and coats the steel rim as it rotates. For a few bucks more per tire I went with a beet juice based product TL 90. A recent rim change on the Farmall C due to CaCl corrosion ran me $795...and I re-used the old tires.

To me it's worth the extra $$. Some folks on here spend $30-50k on a new tractor and complain about a few cents per gallon for ballast. I don't get it.

And that's all it is, just a few $$$ more than calcium, and the quote I got from Union Farm Tractor, Rimguard was a little cheaper than the John Deere place that sells Ballast Star, but the tire guy was sick and would't be back till sometime this week, and the person at the JD place told me Ballast Star was like RG, but I go home and do research on it and find it's just Calcium with anti rust additives in it. We'll see how much anti rust there is when I check the valve cores in a couple years.