Handgun for arthritis

[Zerk]

I don't think my Glock trigger pull is awful. First time firing Ruger LCP, I thought something was wrong with it. I had this with a Taurus someone let me shoot. I got rid of LCP. Liked the size, but unreliable.

Go to store, and play with lots of guns is my advice. also look at topical gels.

 

[Soundguy]

Compared to other stock triggers, glocks are on the stiff side.

Drop in parts fix that though.

 

[Sigarms]

I never wanted a 25 acp either. You brought it up.

Also I said use the right tool for the job. Never said 22 was not a bad tool.

The reason my panties are in a bunch, is cause I 100% disagree with on everything. I also think you can't read and comprehend, or you just want to be a know it all jerk, and twist things.

You have me perplexed.

1 - Not ONCE have I ever mentioned a 25ACP per this thread, but you state I brought it up.

2 - As far as "can't read" or "comprehend", see #1. Perhaps you may construe this as being a jerk, but I'm not certain what you're reading or comprehending.

3 - Exactly how was I jerk? By pointing out the fact that you brought up dead mans opinion on a rifle caliber when the subject is handguns?

4 - Exactly what and why do you disagree with what I'm stating? You now state that you never mentioned a 22 was not a bad tool. Exactly what do you disagree with per my comments?

 

[Zerk]

You have me perplexed.

1 - Not ONCE have I ever mentioned a 25ACP per this thread, but you state I brought it up.

2 - As far as "can't read" or "comprehend", see #1. Perhaps you may construe this as being a jerk, but I'm not certain what you're reading or comprehending.

3 - Exactly how was I jerk? By pointing out the fact that you brought up dead mans opinion on a rifle caliber when the subject is handguns?

4 - Exactly what and why do you disagree with what I'm stating? You now state that you never mentioned a 22 was not a bad tool. Exactly what do you disagree with per my comments?

1. Soundguy brought it up, not you. I was wrong. I can admit it
3. I have not changed my opinion on 22. I never said it did not have uses. I thought you were a jerk before I brought up Chris Kyle. Long gun or short gun, the point is still you need enough gun. I think I was confusing you with Soundguy who said his is a crack shot who will shoot a can in the nads under pressure with a 22 8 times

My mistake, but I feel anyway goes on about the 22 lr as self defense weapon is a blow hard, and either doesn't know how the real world works, or doesn't want to admit it.

 

[Sigarms]

did you read the article, or just the headline?

I did read the article.

Found it interesting how they stated they went with the .40 because the caliber could fit into smaller frame handguns, yet did not point out the fact that the primary reason why they went with the .40 is because the recoil of the 10mm wasn't condusive to great accuracy for some of the shooters the FBI used the caliber on for "testing"(goes to being able to hit what you're aiming at).

The article also didn't point out that the suspects killed were trained military, who were willing to fight it out and die.

The article also didn't point out the sheer dumb luck of the federal agents involved in the actual stop and the line of events that led to their deaths.

However, because we have new amazing bullets, now the 9mm isn't "underpowered" now?

As I've stated before, I'll never knock what someone is carrying for a defensive round, because long story short, anything is better than nothing, and the best caliber for ANY person is one they feel most comfortable with shooting, practicing and are most proficient with. That's a fact.

 

[Zerk]

Compared to other stock triggers, glocks are on the stiff side.

Drop in parts fix that though.

I just don't shoot it enough to care. Easy to shoot. But for some reason SA don't interest me. I am revolver guy. Maybe something like a 10mm might feel manly. But when I can go with 357 or 44, why bother? Plus I don't have to pick up the brass. Also I like reliability. All in all, I am just not into SAs. Probably get a 1911 style someday, for the heck of it. But it is down the list. 629-5 4" is towards the top.

 

[Sigarms]

1. Soundguy brought it up, not you. I was wrong. I can admit it
3. I have not changed my opinion on 22. I never said it did not have uses. I thought you were a jerk before I brought up Chris Kyle. Long gun or short gun, the point is still you need enough gun. I think I was confusing you with Soundguy who said his is a crack shot who will shoot a can in the nads under pressure with a 22 8 times

My mistake, but I feel anyway goes on about the 22 lr as self defense weapon is a blow hard, and either doesn't know how the real world works, or doesn't want to admit it.

So basically you were pissed off enough that you weren't seeing straight, and couldn't differtiate between SG's post and mine, and directed your anger toward me.

As far as the .22LR goes for defense, if I had a daughter, and the only caliber she wanted to carry for personal defense was a .22LR pistol, I wouldn't knock her or try to convince her that the gun is underpowered for 2 legged critters, instead I would have her practice with the gun to be profecient enough that she hit's what she's aiming at and encourage her.

 

[Zerk]

I did read the article.
t).

The article also didn't point out that the suspects killed were trained military, who were willing to fight it out and die.


However, because we have new amazing bullets, now the 9mm isn't "underpowered" now?

fact.

Read the article again. It says they x military. Ranger.

I think you have to assume any criminal is willing to fight to the death. They may be crazy, on drugs, or don't want to go to prison. This is why I think 22lr is a poor choice. You are not dealing with normal people.

9mm +P with new bullets, is ok, It is managable which is a plus. I think one problem is finding a gun that fits all. I believe one problem the FBI had with 10mm was women could not shoot. Well maybe it is time America admits men and women are built different. I have not shot a 40, but it did seem like a better compromise then going back to 9mm.

I am not familar with LEO regulations, but to it should be based on what they can qualify with. I realize they want to get a discount ordering in bulk. I believe they also want familarity between models. But you can guns with same features in different calibers. Look at Glocks, all the same. No safety, same release, and field strip. If I was king, I would pick a brand, and let officiers choose between calibers, and then make them demonstrate it. Maybe they do, I do not know.


But again, if the cops would have had larger calibers or something with more stopping power, maybe +P would have worked, or new style bullet, the guys would have died quicker or been knocked down.

It is not just placement, it is the hydro shock off the bullet. Gutting a deer you will see a performance round destroys everything, mush. Not that I haven't killed lots of deer with cheap rounds that just make a hole.

 

[Soundguy]

My mistake, but I feel anyway goes on about the 22 lr as self defense weapon is a blow hard, and either doesn't know how the real world works, or doesn't want to admit it.

Or.. some of us can actually shoot, have guns, use them often, and have had some training.

For instance.. I know what a 25acp will do. And I know what a 22lr will do. Thru testing... not just guessing, wondering, theorizing, or reading a book, or reading something on the internet, or in a magazine via an armchair.

 

[Zerk]

Or.. some of us can actually shoot, have guns, use them often, and have had some training.

For instance.. I know what a 25acp will do. And I know what a 22lr will do. Thru testing... not just guessing, wondering, theorizing, or reading a book, or reading something on the internet, or in a magazine via an armchair.

Practice and training is great. It will help you when a guy jumps out of the dark, but it is still good to have enough gun. You may not be able to take a good stance, breath and aim.

I know you can kill with a 22. Still not the right tool for self defense, unless it all you can handle or have room for.

Personally I think people who say otherwise are just blow hards, who think to much of themselves.