PTO generator problems with electical approval. Pls help

[gogojuice]

So.. I purchased a 16 KW 50 amp PTO for my tractor.

It was all hooked up by a professional to the panel using an interlock.
EAT-BR2A Cutler Hammer Generator interlock kit 15 2 Amp BR Panel LISTED | eBay

I asked to make sure everything would be ok prior to paying for the install. I was told which kit I should order.
Now I get this. (from the ESA)

Couple things regarding this set up.
1) The UL file number is coming up with nothing - E113887. No search results.
2) The Document indicates that only professional people shall have access to this device. An amateur should never.... anyway This is not something I will approve with a residential domain.

Would suggest an approved Transfer system in place.
Regards,

What are my options?
I'm looking for a whole house setup. Apparently I have to change this soon or they will disconnect my power!

BTW.. I live in Ontario.

Thanks

 

[mcfarmall]

Sounds like the professional didn't know the local electrical code.

 

[gogojuice]

Yep.

Now the company says that they can install a manual transfer switch, but I will only be able to run a couple of circuits. Kind of defeats getting a generator for the whole house, no? There must be something that can be done?

Thanks in advance for help

 

[wolf515]

I am not sure of what your code is, however my local code does not allow a retrofit interlock. I was able to contact the manufacturer of my load center and purchase a factory installed interlock on a new front panel. The inspector for my location was not worried about the concept of the interlock, they were more worried about proper installation and proper location.

One issue they had that made them require the manufacturer not a retrofit was a person did not properly align the interlock. So therefore it did not function as designed.

Perhaps you can find a new panel with a factory installed interlock. Like the previous person it sounds like the original installer wanted to cut a corner and not do the work to code or correctly.

 

[Rock knocker]

In the US, with a supply of 50A I think you are prohibited by code from installing whole house transfer. The transferred circuits must be appropriately sized for the connected generator. Old style analog load shedding is not allowed by code.

 

[PILOON]

For to legally meet Cdn norms it would need ULC (C=Cdn) stamp.
Often exactly same but just a paperwork exercise ($$) that many figure if good enough for USA then it should be good for CDN.
Often is also the case with engineer approvals as well.
Shucks they even get into provincial squabbles. ((approved in Ontario still needs a Quebec eng. signature)
Would seem that borders influence engineering principles no matter where you studied.
It is all really self protection and nothing to do with cash grabbing (LOL)
EGO's running wild.

Provide the same data for USA UL and for sure the C will require some additional test simply to let you know that they are in control.
It is all about your safety you understand. (and not a cash crab)

My take is if UL is OK, then screw them all and go for it.

 

[gogojuice]

Thanks for the responses.
I'm not electrically inclined, hence that is why I hired a professional.
Now it seems I should have hired the local apprentice or the guy next door lol.

So if I have to change it.... what are my options??

 

[Rock knocker]

What is ESA?

 

[Rock knocker]

The interlock you purchased will work fine as a back fed source for your whole house panel. The only issue is that you will be required to shed loads, something all AHJs loathe. A formal transfer panelor a sub panel sized for your load will also work.

 

[Industrial Toys]

It's simple. They don't recognise the certification as it doesn't have Canadian certification. I'm guessing, to get that, would cost as much as what a manufacturer would pay.

It's like, we have a whole system of Government that determines vehicle safety but at the end of the day it's the US that makes these rules, and the only thing we REALLY insist on is that the speedo reads KMS!

My friend works with ESA all the time and they are a major pain in the butt! Every inspector sees things differently.