what on earth does electricity cost near you?

[buickanddeere]

About 80 persons present at the W5 news "town hall". Judging by the clapping when a anti DGR got up and wailed at the microphone there were about 14-18 anti's in support. The most irritating were a pair of 70 some year old burned out hippies that were church ministers. They started off their speeches with a prayer to the lake, streams, waters , trees and sky............not a word about God. They were some manner of Modern Paganism - Wikipedia earth god pagan worshipers.
Moonbats, rainbows and sandals too.
When the engineers , trades persons, managers, chemists, and geologists spoke it was all about facts figures and logic. When the anti's spoke it was all about "what if, I believe, I feel, I think that etc" A classic case of drama queens looking for excitement , attention and some sort of cause to give them a feeling of worth. One in particular may have been taking narcissistic pleasure from the attention. Facts and figures meant nothing to them. Their heads were is solid and impenetrable as the 680 meters of rock the low and intermediate level waste is to be sealed under.
One good thing about the meeting was there were some really yummy cookies afterwards. The other, the commentator Lloyd Robertson grew up in the same county as my wife and he knew her home town. Mrs B&D also had the same maiden name Robertson. By coincidence Lloyd Robertson also had a daughter with the same name Lisa. They chatted away for several minutes about people and places they both knew.

 

[dmccarty]

... The most irritating were a pair of 70 some year old burned out hippies that were church ministers. They started off their speeches with a prayer to the lake, streams, waters , trees and sky............not a word about God. They were some manner of Modern Paganism - Wikipedia earth god pagan worshipers.
Moonbats, rainbows and sandals too.
When the engineers , trades persons, managers, chemists, and geologists spoke it was all about facts figures and logic. When the anti's spoke it was all about "what if, I believe, I feel, I think that etc" A classic case of drama queens looking for excitement , attention and some sort of cause to give them a feeling of worth. One in particular may have been taking narcissistic pleasure from the attention. Facts and figures meant nothing to them. Their heads were is solid and impenetrable as the 680 meters of rock the low and intermediate level waste is to be sealed under....

For a moment I thought you were talking about one of our county meetings....

The only difference I can see in what you said and what happens in my county is this,

One in particular may have been taking narcissistic pleasure from the attention.

which in my place would be

Many were taking narcissistic pleasure from the attention.

Later,
Dan

 

[3930dave]

The extent that the provincial Auditor-General has been de-fanged is a clear sign of how deep the rot has set in.

Liberals' 'self-congratulatory' hydro ads ripped | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

Rgds, D.

 

[dmccarty]

The extent that the provincial Auditor-General has been de-fanged is a clear sign of how deep the rot has set in.

Liberals' 'self-congratulatory' hydro ads ripped | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

Rgds, D.

Reading the link, it says at the end,

Premier Kathleen Wynne rolled out her plan to slash hydro rates by 17% two weeks ago. When combined with an 8% HST rebate, the savings total 25%.

Which made me ask how are they paying for something that used to cost X but they reduce the price by 25%? Was the previous cost all "profit" other wise someone is paying for the 25% cut.

The last paragraph said,

That plan, which is supposed to take effect this summer, will cost taxpayers an estimated $25 billion in interest payments as the government re-amortizes electricity deals over 30 years to achieve the short-term savings.

Wow! Just Wow!

A billion here and a billion there, add it all up and eventually it is big money.

Later,
Dan

 

[3930dave]

Reading the link, it says at the end,


Which made me ask how are they paying for something that used to cost X but they reduce the price by 25%? Was the previous cost all "profit" other wise someone is paying for the 25% cut.

The last paragraph said,



Wow! Just Wow!

A billion here and a billion there, add it all up and eventually it is big money.

Later,
Dan

In this province, the scams start at a billion.

Remember how Sears (a long time ago) would get fined for massively increasing "Regular" prices, so they could then advertise a 50% Off Sale ?

The party in power here has massively run up prices (at least 85%), and is now attempting to act surprised that non 1%'ers can't afford their elec bills. Us peasants are now supposed to fall all over ourselves being grateful for a 25% cut..... if people here next election vote these clowns back in, after a 60%+ increase, then it probably is time to vacate the province IMO.....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

I was startled to find....

Toronto-area Freezie company not eligible for hydro relief - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

..................................... that we had a manufacturer left in this province......

Will the last one to leave please shut out the lights....

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Taxpayer ownership now below 50%.

Ontario sells what it expects to be final tranche of shares in Hydro One | Ontar

I will be surprised if this is the last sell-off, as the junkies still have the keys to the pharmacy.....

Rgds, D.

 

[CobyRupert]

"On earth" it cost nothing, only when the utility raises the voltage above ground potential do I have to pay for it.

 

[Looking4new]

Taxpayer ownership now below 50%.

Ontario sells what it expects to be final tranche of shares in Hydro One | Ontar

I will be surprised if this is the last sell-off, as the junkies still have the keys to the pharmacy.....

Rgds, D.

I don't think we (the people of Ontario) ever 'owned' Hydro One/Ontario Hydro. I know I never saw any profits from it.

 

[buickanddeere]

I don't think we (the people of Ontario) ever 'owned' Hydro One/Ontario Hydro. I know I never saw any profits from it.

Used to own it by having power cheaper than most other provinces, states and countries. Then the public assettes were sold off by corporate raiders in 1999. Then Dalton and wynne listened to the green weenie Gerrald Butts and forced the rates payer to subsidize the wholesale price wind, gas and solar at 13.5, 17 and up to 80.2 cents per Kw with the priority to generate. While at the same time hydroelectric and nuclear spill water or blow steam when they could sell for 5 to 7 cents wholesale .