Truck PTO, anyone have one?

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Does anyone run anything from a truck PTO? I understand running hydraulics, but has anyone run anything else? Generator, compressor, pump etc?
 
/ Truck PTO, anyone have one? #2  
I've seen some winches run from PTOs, but it's been a long time.
 
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There was a time a PTO takeoff on a truck was not uncommon. No electric winches etc. All mechanical drive. Also had gin pole trucks back then and hydraulics would be run off of a PTO driven pump.

One jacked up rear wheel was also used as a mechanical drive.
 
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Does anyone run anything from a truck PTO? I understand running hydraulics, but has anyone run anything else? Generator, compressor, pump etc?
I don't, but I've seen all of the above... especially compressors and front mounted winches.

SR
 
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Water pumps on fire trucks? Jon
 
/ Truck PTO, anyone have one? #6  
Does anyone run anything from a truck PTO? I understand running hydraulics, but has anyone run anything else? Generator, compressor, pump etc?

I've seen some mechanically run PTO winches but they are very rare. Mostly on old military gear. Most winches are electric these days but I've also seen hydraulic winches, also rare. You can run those with a power steering pump.
 
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I've run winches from transmission PTO, these are expensive reversible drives, pumps be it hydraulic or water only have to turn in one direction.

Oil field winch trucks, the preferred trucks have 5/ 4 transmissions with a power tower mounted on top of the four speed auxiliary transmission.

To use the power tower the auxiliary is put into neutral, with range speeds selected from the main transmission.

Commercial boats like small gill netters have accessories run off hydraulics from a pump belt driven from engine having an electric clutch to engage the pump when needed.

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/ Truck PTO, anyone have one? #8  
When I ordered my 1999 F250 Superduty, there was some mention of it being PTO capable, but it doesn't have a PTO. Maybe it was a Ford option or it needed 3rd party additional hardware.
 
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Yes, the superduty trucks had an auto trans pto option. My uncle had an early '99 rollback (tow truck) that operated via pto driven hydraulic pump. Electronic control of high idle depending on load. Not all of the 4R100 Auto trans cases had the pto access plate.
 
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Yes, the superduty trucks had an auto trans pto option. My uncle had an early '99 rollback (tow truck) that operated via pto driven hydraulic pump. Electronic control of high idle depending on load. Not all of the 4R100 Auto trans cases had the pto access plate.

For what it's worth, this was a 6 speed manual. I prefer manuals and nobody stocks them so I had to order it.
 
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The old transmissions had side plates that you removed and installed pto adapter which was a gear that ran off of the cluster gear in the trans. It could be shifted in and out of gear. Not synchronized so if you didn't engage with engine off or clutch they would grind.
Some transmissions had a plate on both sides for 2 ptos!
Fire trucks have pump in line connected through main driveshaft and have engage/disengage for pump/rearend.
 
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I put together a first gen. Bronco with a front PTO winch driven off the transfer case. Un stoppable 4 speed winch with reverse:thumbsup:
I ordered a '01 Super Duty with a PTO acess on that POS auto tranny they offered back then, it was under $100 but I never used it.
 
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I put together a first gen. Bronco with a front PTO winch driven off the transfer case. Un stoppable 4 speed winch with reverse:thumbsup:
I ordered a '01 Super Duty with a PTO acess on that POS auto tranny they offered back then, it was under $100 but I never used it.

That POS trans you refer to is the 4R100 I mention in my earlier post. The 6spd manual in my F250 had the pto access cover just like my old chevy 4spds did, only on both sides! I love my 6spd... I'd convert the F350 and Excursion if I had the parts to do it, wouldn't think twice.
 
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Had one on a F700 to drive auxiliary hydraulics. Push the clutch in, flip a lever and the PTO would engage by air. Pretty painless. Generally there is a steel cover plate on the side of transmission or transfer case where the PTO would mount. Mind you there are shims stacked under the PTO to set the engagement depth. It take a micrometer to determine the shim thickness.
 
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Had one on a F700 to drive auxiliary hydraulics. Push the clutch in, flip a lever and the PTO would engage by air. Pretty painless. Generally there is a steel cover plate on the side of transmission or transfer case where the PTO would mount. Mind you there are shims stacked under the PTO to set the engagement depth. It take a micrometer to determine the shim thickness.

The shims are used to get the proper backlash in the gear set when they're engaged, also single speed truck PTO drives ship with the drive facing the rear, you can dissemble the unit reversing the output to the front.

My last truck with an Atlas crane had an air shift pto, the older Hiab cranes had the best pumps with 6 pistons run off a swash plate.

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My dump truck uses a PTO mounted to the side of the transmission. It was an old fire truck and had a pump mounted to the front pulley. The only signs are a square hole in the radiator and grill for the PTO shaft.
 
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I have an old ford tow truck outside that has a PTO. Throw it in neutral, engage the PTO and let off the clutch and winch away. Idle control off the back end if you want it to winch faster or harder. Rusty, old and beat up... but i love it. Comes in handy working on the tractors sometimes. Even saved a CK from an unwanted swim once while digging out the pond with the extend-a-hoe.
 
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I have a PTO driven hydraulic pump on my '04 F350 manual 5 speed. You can then use the hydraulics to power whatever you want...air compressor, welder, generator, or in my case I only use the hydrulics to drive a winch (3,000 lb single line and 12,000 lb when 4 parted).

Not all trucks have the PTO option, it has to be installed at the factory. The cover may be there but when you pull the cover off there will be a special gear designed to mesh with the PTO.
 
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I had a Jeep from the 50's with a pto on the rear. It had been used on the beach in Destin, Fl so the body was pretty rusty. When I finally gave it up for parts, I kept the pto parts where they hooked into the transfer case. Tripped over them one time too many and finally took them to a guy that I met at a show with a nice jeep and gave it to him. He was happy!
My 2000 F350 with a six speed has the pto plate, and I have several of the gear driven boxes that came from a wrecker yard and some might fit my truck.
I also have a pto driven Bradenton winch (20t) should I even decide to make use of them alone with a divorced transfer case that also could run the pto. My need for a big winch went away, so I probably never will, lol.
David from jax
 
/ Truck PTO, anyone have one? #20  
I had a Jeep from the 50's with a pto on the rear. It had been used on the beach in Destin, Fl so the body was pretty rusty. When I finally gave it up for parts, I kept the pto parts where they hooked into the transfer case. Tripped over them one time too many and finally took them to a guy that I met at a show with a nice jeep and gave it to him. He was happy!
My 2000 F350 with a six speed has the pto plate, and I have several of the gear driven boxes that came from a wrecker yard and some might fit my truck.
I also have a pto driven Bradenton winch (20t) should I even decide to make use of them alone with a divorced transfer case that also could run the pto. My need for a big winch went away, so I probably never will, lol.
David from jax

Looks like the ZF 6 speed transmission uses a standard 6 bolt PTO, all you need to do now is find a good usable case then replace the internal gear that mates to yours and your in business.

Some PTO's are manufactured so the hydraulic pump bolts directly to the output eliminating the need for a drive line.

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