Regeneration

[xcgreene]

Google took me to Btown's participation in a "Mahindra 2015" diesel engine compliance discussion, which ends in the reality of "no free lunch" when it comes to cleaning up an engine. I'll be long gone before my next tractor likely needs the pricey parts mentioned on either brand. FWIW, I used to build wrecked cars as a sideline and built my wife a "2000 beetle TDI" to commute. We ran it nearly a 100k then sold it to a friend who ran it nearly 300k. I could take off for my native KS from KY and almost make it there on one tank of red juice. I spent zero on emissions parts, the next guy spent more but not a bunch overall. I'm a gearhead but honestly loved the car and it's 90hp torque.
My next car may be a DEF diesel that's coming out early 2018 with an engine already in use. When I got on that kick a few months back the tightwad in me googled make yer own DEF and I ended up on ebay pricing laboratory urea powder, then decided it wasn't worth the effort to mix my own "pee"?
The Mahindra price point for the whole tractor still seems to be the main lure for me, aside from the features overall.
If I had all choices laid before me in an economical way, I'd just stick a loader on my Kioti. It's been a dandy tractor.

I'm still asking: When did Kioti go to DPF?

the DKse tractors were the last of the old, as the NX took over and had DPF. The NX was available at the same time the DKse tractors for a minute or two. Then the DK10 series tractors were introduced.

 

[kantuckid]

Thanks, Kioti's press release i just read says 2013 is the release year to meet Tier 4 regs.

 

[xcgreene]

Thanks, Kioti's press release i just read says 2013 is the release year to meet Tier 4 regs.

though my 2014 dk45se did not have regen. I'm not sure what 2015 entailed as far as availability

 

[Btown]

Thanks, Kioti's press release i just read says 2013 is the release year to meet Tier 4 regs.

That might have been Interim tier 4. I want to say around 14 or 15 is when manufacturers switched over. I think Eric had one of the first NX 60 hp machines. His thread starts on 6-24-2016.

 

[kantuckid]

I looked at an ad for a 2013DK40SE that did not have tier 4.
In a somewhat related discussion of solutions to cleaning up diesel engines there's been several efforts to bring clean engines into the USA in small trucks & cars in recent years. I have been looking at a diesel engine SUV lately. M-B canned there effort for now with their new small SUV as the time to clear the guvment in USA would have resulted in thousands of cars not sold while the clearance process moved along. BMW will be selling it's X3 diesel sooner, like next spring-I read they sold over 400,000 of them (gas) out of the SC plant.
Mazda has their diesel coming soon in the new CX-5 SUV. The candy apple red one like on TV ads lately. I read an article that related how they tried to bring the non DEF engines ( sold elsewhere BTW) under USA approval and finally gave up, thus the version we get will be a DEF engine.
I talked to a former Mahindra dealer Saturday-he sold them for 7 years and quit the brand. He sells Kioti was my purpose in talking to him. he said the parts could be very slow and engine problems with certain engines. He went on to say the company was great on marketing but lax on parts availabilty. Says they have been pestering him to stay with them but he's not willing.
A clean engine is nice but I do wonder what the down the road parts cost will be for the Kioti regen parts?

 

[Btown]

Chevy/GMC has a midsize diesel SUV for 2018. 1.6L AWD rated 38 mpg highway. Odds are you will probably spend $0 on emission stuff for your tractor. It should be good for 3000-4000 hours. But there will be cases of premature failures.

 

[kantuckid]

I don't see the cat convertors going bad very soon but some diesels use pricey EGR's. I've seen them bad before 100k on road vehicles. The several Kioti dealers I have asked say the tractors haven't shown emissions parts needs as yet.

 

[finn1]

The diesel option is back in the Jeep lineup in a couple of models for next year.

The German manufacturers dropped it because of the VW criminal cheating on emissions certification.

Remember, the Germans all used variations of the Bosch cheater software.

 

[kantuckid]

The diesel option is back in the Jeep lineup in a couple of models for next year.

The German manufacturers dropped it because of the VW criminal cheating on emissions certification.

Remember, the Germans all used variations of the Bosch cheater software.

What? While I'm not the expert I do read about car stuff and I was and am looking toward my next SUV purchase- not just a tractor.
Several German mfg.'s sell diesels now, both in the USA and certainly an even broader number of engine choices abroad.
M-B killed it for now as the backlash from the VW fiasco made it certain the USA certification process would slow down the intro on a car they were already selling in Europe and ready to ship to USA in Gas versions. Their company estimates of the USA process made that car unavailable in diesel here but not other brands. BMW has had them here in cars other than the one I'm interested in for some time, M-B too. VW's cars that have the criminal software are said to be coming up for retail sale as they are revamped. That whole senario is more complicated than whats in the news.
I remember seeing a diesel option in Jeep SUV's last year on their own website? It might have been a Euro diesel, I forget now. All Jeeps are pricey!
perhaps you meant the Jeep-Jeep? They are not of interest to me, so not what I looked about.
I guess we are back to tractors & regeneration...

 

[buickanddeere]

If the diesel is properly operated at full power, at full load for hours at a time. Regen will be a rare event .