MT125 vs BX23S

[BulldogsPlanes]

I am in the market for a subcompact that will be the best for the money.

After a lot of research I narrowed it down to two contenders the LS MT125 $15,900 vs Kubota BX23S $17,900 in Atlanta GA.
Both have front loaders and backhoes. No other attachments

MT125 pro's
More lift, hydraulics, HP, price

BX23S pro's
Easy disconnects, resale value, dealership, quick detached bucket

I'm interested in all your opinions and guidance. I'm new to the forum and to tractors.

 

[radioman]

i had to google the ls you comparing... ok it looks like a clone with thier ls skin of the bx.
let me tell you something -- the pros you are listing - i can poke holes in that. the more lift capacity, i don't think you want to lift more weight, its the smallest real tractor you can buy and i dont think you want to lift too much more as it could break something. the BX you can bump up the hydraulic power if needed with shims and its all you need. the more hp is moot. with the bx you can spin out the tires when pulling/pushing something so more hp will not help. the tractors are hydro powered so getting that few extra horses will not be felt through the transmission at all. a geared tractor yes, but hydro , no.

the best guidance i can give you is actually go to the dealers and try them both and see how it feels and the service/dealer is more important then the salesman.

 

[ThirdMan]

Yes, go see the tractors in person. The best information online for the MT125 is in the forums here and over at Tony Lay's youtube channel.

 

[rider7767]

Please see the Backhoe removal video I just posted on the thread above yours. The Backhoe comes off easy. I would be worried about the clamps on the Kubota. More moving parts means more chance of breaking. Also, I just payed $15900 last week for the MT125 with Loader, Backhoe, and MMM. Lean on the dealer with that knowledge. I am putting together the video for Loader removal tonight. The LS MT125 have the large Hydraulic connectors which makes it easy to disconnect hoses on the loader and backhoe. I do like the quick connect lines on the Kubota loader; however we are talking 1 min difference on disconnect. I also think the Kubota quick disconnect on the loader is more difficult to fix when these fitting start to leak, and they will. The LS MT125 will be 5 min fixes. Food for thought. Check out my videos. There is not much out there on the LS MT125, So I am trying to fix that.

 

[BulldogsPlanes]

Great info rider7767. I have watched all your YouTube videos on the MT 125 . Thank you for sharing. 15,900 ask your dealer how much for a second one I'll drive up and get it seriously.

 

[rider7767]

Great info rider7767. I have watched all your YouTube videos on the MT 125 . Thank you for sharing. 15,900 ask your dealer how much for a second one I'll drive up and get it seriously.

They will delivery!

 

[BulldogsPlanes]

Today I spoke with the LS salesman and the LS N.C. assembly plant customer service, both in separate conversations told me that if I mount a different FL bucket it voids the warranty.

This all came about since I noticed the LS 2025 has a same size bucket with skid steer quick disconnect.
It's an option that I want, to be able to swap to a grapple and other attachments.
sounds crazy

 

[rider7767]

Today I spoke with the LS salesman and the LS N.C. assembly plant customer service, both in separate conversations told me that if I mount a different FL bucket it voids the warranty.

This all came about since I noticed the LS 2025 has a same size bucket with skid steer quick disconnect.
It's an option that I want, to be able to swap to a grapple and other attachments.
sounds crazy

I understand that, but how would they know. I don't think any of the SCUT are really big enough for quick attachment buckets. The Kubota will only lift about 400 lbs to the highest point. When you add a 200lbs forklift attachment it then would have much less, because the load is out in front. I bought a set of Bolt on forks and they weigh about 50 lbs. They work really well, and I don't loose much lift capacity. If you need the Quick Attachments, I think this tractor and all SCUTs are to small. It is just my two cents.

 

[BulldogsPlanes]

I see some of the bx23s with grapples. And the owners love it. Subcompact maneuver way better and go through gates easier.

To me if the specs for the mt125 scut are better than the bx23s it should handdle it with no problems. I would think.

 

[BulldogsPlanes]

Now if can get such a good deal like you. I may be willing to hide my grapple when MTC is due. :thumbsup:

But local Atlanta LS dealers are not budging on price, it looks like I'm going to have to buy out of state maybe by you if its even possible.