How difficult to operate a mini excavator

   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #31  
I have mixed emotions about this. Part of me says have $2,000 worth of fun renting that bad boy. That said, are you able to operate it every day for a month, or just the weekends? Even if you do get a mini excavator, there is still a lot of chainsaw and manual labor work to do.

A skilled operator with the right equipment will run circles around us weekend warriors.

I guess I am at the flip a coin stage.
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #32  
I have about 3 acres that I want to clear on my property. Quite a few big pines and sweet gums but a lot of 4-6 inch trees that I don't want and lots of smaller privet and brush.

I don't want to get it mulched because it leaves a lot of splintered stumps that will re sprout back out and difficult to mow because of the stumps. I was thinking about renting a mini excavator. Could dig up the smaller trees and brush and if I did have any regrowth it would be easier to mow.

I thought about buying a used mini ex and then selling after I'm finished but I saw that I can rent one for $2000 per month. Problem is I have no experience operating anything like this. Can someone tell me what the learning curve is to use one of these to clear land as I described. Land is level and flat.

Thanks
no problem learning you'll be fine go get it done !
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #33  
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #34  
I have mixed emotions about this. Part of me says have $2,000 worth of fun renting that bad boy. That said, are you able to operate it every day for a month, or just the weekends? Even if you do get a mini excavator, there is still a lot of chainsaw and manual labor work to do.

A skilled operator with the right equipment will run circles around us weekend warriors.

I guess I am at the flip a coin stage.

I dunno, I was able to operate at a standard professional rate of production when doing a lot of ditching: had hundreds of feet to do. Only reason I could say this is because I needed to figure out how long it would take, how long I needed to run the excavator for that operation (had other thing to do as well- dig some stumps).

My dad once told me that it would take me a whole day to figure out how to operate a backhoe. I think it took me maybe 30 minutes to figure out an excavator (though

I'd say that it depends on what all you need to get done. If it's only this and not other projects then do it yourself. But, if doing it yourself means that keeps you from doing other important, time sensitive, things then hiring would tend to seem to have more value to it.

Lots of times I have a general idea, not totally concrete. I get into something and adjust as I go along. Hard to communicate about unknowns. I have a lot of "conditionals" running through my head (it's a busy place!); most times it would take longer to convey and manage someone else than doing it myself. I know this sounds a little counter to my comments about having projects mapped out, but it's just the reality that no matter how well something is planned things come up that throw up a curve. I've read and heard of a lot of bad decisions being made (or about to be made) by hired folks trying to decipher a situation: if anyone is to going to make a mistake then by god I should be me! :laughing: If you do hire out then make is clear that you need to be consulted should there be any questions/confusions/curves popping up: you're now the foreman; how good are you at that/this?
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #35  
Lots of times I have a general idea, not totally concrete. I get into something and adjust as I go along. Hard to communicate about unknowns. I have a lot of "conditionals" running through my head (it's a busy place!); most times it would take longer to convey and manage someone else than doing it myself. I know this sounds a little counter to my comments about having projects mapped out, but it's just the reality that no matter how well something is planned things come up that throw up a curve. I've read and heard of a lot of bad decisions being made (or about to be made) by hired folks trying to decipher a situation: if anyone is to going to make a mistake then by god I should be me! :laughing: If you do hire out then make is clear that you need to be consulted should there be any questions/confusions/curves popping up: you're now the foreman; how good are you at that/this?

Beautiful description of why it is nice to own your own equipment. :thumbsup:
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #36  
They aren't hard to learn. Make sure and buy the covers anything insurance. Don't try to pull stumps and trees with it. Dig them out. Trying to pull or force things will just blow hoses and tear stuff up. They are made for digging.

A mini is not the right choice for large pines and sweetgums. Especially large sweetgums.
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #37  
1000% true. An inexperienced operator trying to take down trees = broken machinery or WORSE. If you really want to DIY, buy a machine and use it to dig stumps for a few hundred hours. Then you can tackle 20-foot trees and other things that won't kill you. Taking down 80-foot trees that are 24" DBH is certainly possible with a mini-ex, but it can get very exciting very quickly. There is no opportunity for mistakes. The machine has to work like an extension of your own body, and it takes a lot of experience for most people to reach that level of proficiency.

Says it all.
The one day learning curve that seems to make some proficient would not get you hired in a industrial work site.
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #38  
Says it all.
The one day learning curve that seems to make some proficient would not get you hired in a industrial work site.

I agree. Anyone who has never ran a hoe, that says in 15-20 minutes they had it figured out, still doesn't know how to run a hoe. :D
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #39  
You know, some folks are wired differently than others. We all know "that guy" that can look at a machine for a couple minutes, reach in and pull out the problem, or whack it with a hammer in just the right place, etc.... I have siblings that can look at something once, then draw it in great detail, or remember it word for word. As a kid, I sat on the floor of my mom's VW bus between the two front seats and watched her feet work the pedals and shifter. The first time they stuck me in the driver's seat, never having touched a steering wheel, clutch, brake, shifter ever before in my life, my dad sitting next to me, said ease the clutch out while you give it some gas... and off we went. I had it down by the end of the block. So did one of my sister's (the other three didn't drive until their 30's). She and I are wired the same when it comes to being comfortable operating a machine.

I got the hang of flying an airplane at about 12 years old. Feels neat!

I'm pretty good at go-kart and mini-sprint cars, too. Haven't drag raced my motor cycle at the strip or road raced in 20 years, but when I did, it came quite naturally.

Fork lifts are fun. I used to load airplanes with them. One was a 4 speed manual tranny forklift. Another was some ungodly huge hydrostatic monster that I used to load a C130 at night. At my last job I occasionally ran a clamp truck. You squeeze a 50" wide X 4' diameter 2000 pound roll of paper juuuuusssst right so you don't damage it, but don't let it slip, lift it up, rotate it 90 degrees and stand it on its end. Then you do the same to a 2nd roll, but stand it on top of the 1st roll. Then you set roll #3 on the floor, then roll #4 on roll #3. Finally you grab roll #3 again, and pick up the two rolls and set them on top of the first stack of #1 & 2. Don't flinch or you drop 4000# of paper on yourself...

Fuel trucks, baggage handling equipment, tugs, driving boom trucks... an air horse airplane mover like this (you sit on the hood facing backwards with the steering wheel between your knees.). I was very proficient on that thing...
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I'll admit it took me a few minutes to get the hang of a mini-excavator. But I was completely comfortable in less than 1/2 an hour. Certainly, though, as I was digging along, trying to dig faster and faster, there were a couple times where my brain-hand/arm coordination just went haywire and I pretty much threw the bucket full of dirt exactly back where I had just taken it out of! :laughing: It really felt like the proverbial brain flatulence! :laughing: Just WHAM!!! Brain says "I'm confused!" But really, I was quite comfortable on it. I'm sure there were more tricks and tips to learn, but hey, it was well worth the weekend rental.

My little Power Trac PT425 took a bit to get super proficient due to the articulation, but I was quit comfortable on it in about an hour, and highly proficient in about 8 hours.

I'm a pretty decent shot with a rifle, but can't hit squat with a bow and arrow... I'm left handed, but right eyed dominant. So I shoot guns right handed, but pull a bow left handed. I can't aim well with my right eye.

Anywho, I've met plenty of folks that are gifted in some aspects and total clutzes in others. Makes life interesting. :)
 
   / How difficult to operate a mini excavator #40  
I'm pretty good on a backhoe. Lucky most of the mini excavators have switchable controls. I can't operate the trackhoe pattern worth a flip. My buddy is pretty good on a trackhoe, but can't operate a backhoe worth a flip.
 

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