The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

[lostcreekranch]

This is a forum that is primarily focused on Compact Utility Tractors and SCUTs. Utility tractors are a different breed. Those of you with 100hp tractors represent a very small fraction of the TBN users who are primarily amateurs not farmers and almost everyone who comes here to learn about grapples is a grapple novice. I'm ever so happy for you that you can spend $3500 on a grapple but the vast majority of readers of this thread are grapple novices looking to buy a cost efficient grapple for a sub 50hp CUT and that is who my comments are directed towards.

As for bending my tines, that was the hydraulics operating against a one plus ton granite rock. And it was just the tips of the lid. The bottom tines are 3/8" steel and are stronger than any standard bucket. You couldn't damage the grapple with your loader unless you decided to ram something off center at speed. I doubt you're quite that dumb. BTW, the same grapple I have is used on another TBN members M59. He loves it. No problems.

IT, give us a break! Now YOU have decided that TractorbyNet is only for SCUT Tractor owners? If those of us with 50 HP and Greater tractors are to be uninvited to TBN let the site owner STATE THAT VERY CLEARLY! You are neither site owner nor the OP of this thread.

Or maybe site should be renamed SCUTBN?

Many of us have subtly, or not, tried to coach you on your people skills but, you just don’t get it. Your “my way or the Highway” presentation that anything bigger than a ultra light 48” Grapple is wrong......... is categorically just showing your limited knowledge of the complete range of grapples available and what we, in the real world, use our grapples for.

As previously stated, the members of TBN use grapples for a VERY wide range of tasks. I’ve done things with my 84” Grapple that would have wadded your 48” Grapple into a mangled ball of scrap metal.

Perhaps..... if you would preface your pontifications with “I’m an expert on grapples for SCUTS” you would have more credibility. Unfortunately........ you don’t. You constantly criticize those of us with large tractors and grapples for wasting our money and FEL capacity.

Trust me when I tell you that, few TBN members have ever bought large capacity grapples for fame or vanity. We USE them!

Peace out!

 

[4570Man]

84" wide duel lid grapple. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures actually showing off its capabilities because its dangerous to get out of the machine with a load like that.

 

[case580c]

Don't stop there. Get a truly manly 1000lb high strength steel claw grapple from Anbo. It will set you back about $4K but I'm sure it will serve you well.

I have been following ALL the Grapple forums and I am leaning to the Anbo GR-S 60" for my Kubota M5160 4x4 with rear wheel weights and ballast in rear tires, I was quoted $3900. delivered to my farm. Land Pride is a few bucks cheaper, But the Anbo Tines made with AR400 Steel, it opens to 51" weight is 660# where Land Pride is 784# An EA about 2900 bucks. I hear lots of good things about the Anbo. I have always found if you by a better tool it will last. My two cents. If you see flaw in my thinking please tell me. Thanks

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I have been following ALL the Grapple forums and I am leaning to the Anbo GR-S 60" for my Kubota M5160 4x4 with rear wheel weights and ballast in rear tires, I was quoted $3900. delivered to my farm. Land Pride is a few bucks cheaper, But the Anbo Tines made with AR400 Steel, it opens to 51" weight is 660# where Land Pride is 784# An EA about 2900 bucks. I hear lots of good things about the Anbo. I have always found if you by a better tool it will last. My two cents. If you see flaw in my thinking please tell me. Thanks

Why is it so expensive? Your tractor can only lift about 2500 pounds. I think you should look at what EA is offering.

 

[IslandTractor]

IT, give us a break! Now YOU have decided that TractorbyNet is only for SCUT Tractor owners? If those of us with 50 HP and Greater tractors are to be uninvited to TBN let the site owner STATE THAT VERY CLEARLY! You are neither site owner nor the OP of this thread.

Or maybe site should be renamed SCUTBN?

Many of us have subtly, or not, tried to coach you on your people skills but, you just don’t get it. Your “my way or the Highway” presentation that anything bigger than a ultra light 48” Grapple is wrong......... is categorically just showing your limited knowledge of the complete range of grapples available and what we, in the real world, use our grapples for.

As previously stated, the members of TBN use grapples for a VERY wide range of tasks. I’ve done things with my 84” Grapple that would have wadded your 48” Grapple into a mangled ball of scrap metal.

Perhaps..... if you would preface your pontifications with “I’m an expert on grapples for SCUTS” you would have more credibility. Unfortunately........ you don’t. You constantly criticize those of us with large tractors and grapples for wasting our money and FEL capacity.

Trust me when I tell you that, few TBN members have ever bought large capacity grapples for fame or vanity. We USE them!

Peace out!

Big words from someone who has apparently never operated a 48" grapple! You have such credibility.

I stated that the vast majority of TBN members/users are CUT owners. Look at the avatar signatures yourself and compare the numbers of utility to CUT/SCUT owners. Landslide. CUT/SCUT tractors make up about 90% of what TBN members use. It simply makes sense then to focus discussion on that CUT/SCUT group.

I don't criticize owners of large tractors for buying big grapples, I am very simply consistent in directing comments towards novice grapple buyers who are virtually never utility tractor owners (at least on this forum).

 

[IslandTractor]

Why is it so expensive? Your tractor can only lift about 2500 pounds. I think you should look at what EA is offering.

Eric and I don't often agree but we do in this case. That Anbo grapple is aimed at the commercial skidsteer market IMO. A Kubota M5140 doesn't have a super strong loader and would use the same class grapple as Eric and I own and use on similar size tractors with 2700lb lift capacity FELs.

 

[EverythingAttachments]

View attachment 528735View attachment 528736 84" wide duel lid grapple. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures actually showing off its capabilities because its dangerous to get out of the machine with a load like that.

Reminds me of this pic, which I saw just yesterday in a facebook group. Getting off a tractor and taking a pic is one thing, but a skid steer is a different animal.
Travis

 

[lostcreekranch]

Big words from someone who has apparently never operated a 48" grapple! You have such credibility.

I stated that the vast majority of TBN members/users are CUT owners. Look at the avatar signatures yourself and compare the numbers of utility to CUT/SCUT owners. Landslide. CUT/SCUT tractors make up about 90% of what TBN members use. It simply makes sense then to focus discussion on that CUT/SCUT group.

I don't criticize owners of large tractors for buying big grapples, I am very simply consistent in directing comments towards novice grapple buyers who are virtually never utility tractor owners (at least on this forum).

 

[rustyshakelford]

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Not a kioti...IT wouldn’t be caught on a Deere.

Brett

 

[Xfaxman]

I have been following ALL the Grapple forums and I am leaning to the Anbo GR-S 60" for my Kubota M5160 4x4 with rear wheel weights and ballast in rear tires, I was quoted $3900. delivered to my farm. Land Pride is a few bucks cheaper, But the Anbo Tines made with AR400 Steel, it opens to 51" weight is 660# where Land Pride is 784# An EA about 2900 bucks. I hear lots of good things about the Anbo. I have always found if you by a better tool it will last. My two cents. If you see flaw in my thinking please tell me. Thanks

What is the main use for your grapple?

 

[sea2summit]

Went a little outside of design specs


Some of the aftermath.

 

[IslandTractor]

The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Not a kioti...IT wouldn’t be caught on a Deere.

Brett

Kiotis eat Deere

 

[EverythingAttachments]

Went a little outside of design specs
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Some of the aftermath.
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Man, those are some TALL pines, huh!
Travis

 

[Laderbuilt]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Yes, I know EA introduced a rake or clamshell type grapple earlier this year. The notable thing about it is the weight. Although in general clamshell style grapples are really only useful for collecting brush, the weight does factor in for subcompacts and compacts with less than 1000lb lift capacity.

The MAJOR downside of a clamshell is that any stick or log that jambs in the hinge will stop the grapple from closing further. If you just need to pick up a single log at a time that is not a big deal but if you are trying to pick up a pile of logs or branches or a combination of types of debris, then the hinge jam will severely limit the size of the load you can secure. Same story with 4n1 buckets when used as grapples.

If you consider two piles of debris and load one with a standard "L" grapple and the other with a clamshell you'll see what I mean. The standard grapple pushes under and into the load and only when the grapple is full do you close the top jaw to hold the load in place. The load is actually resting on the fixed bottom tines so gravity is doing most of the work and the upper jaw simply keeps the load from falling out forwards. With a clamshell you load about the same way but as the bottom tines are very short, the load is held in place not by gravity but by compression of the upper jaw. All fine and dandy unless there is a log or branch in the debris pile that sticks out beyond the hinge. If it does, then NOTHING below that branch/log will be secured and will fall out of the clamshell as soon as you lift it. Been there, done that (with a 4n1).

Clamshells may or may not be better for simply collecting soft bramble type brush but they are definitely not as good as a standard grapple for collecting mixed material of different lengths. Main issue as described is that gravity is your friend with a standard grapple and is your enemy with a clamshell.

I'd get a clamshell if I really had a weak loader (think Kubota BX) but if my loader could lift close to or more than 1000lbs then the standard is more flexible.

Thank you for this post. I have been saving for my grapple and valve setup. I have been debating wether to get a “L” shape grapple or the clamshell. I will be picking up a variety of material but mostly logs, and split fire wood. Still haven’t made a decision but this was good info I haven’t thought of yet

 

[EverythingAttachments]

Re: The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

Thank you for this post. I have been saving for my grapple and valve setup. I have been debating wether to get a 鏑 shape grapple or the clamshell. I will be picking up a variety of material but mostly logs, and split fire wood. Still haven稚 made a decision but this was good info I haven稚 thought of yet

I think you'll be happier with the cradling ability of an L shaped grapple for this application.

This customer has a 66" Dual Lid Wicked Grapple on his Bobcat Toolcat and was really pleased with its firewood grabbing ability.
Travis

 

[Laderbuilt]

Thanks for the pictures. That’s one of the main things I’d be doing.

 

[sd455dan]

Thanks for the pictures. That痴 one of the main things I壇 be doing.

Agree with Ted.. and Island.... L grapples work well for moving logs and even loading/unloading them from trailers

66 inch wide is about what my grapple is also- and it does add some stability for logs or large square bales of hay. not sure I would want to go (much) narrower for most of my uses.

 

[Laderbuilt]

That’s a lot of fire wood. I don’t think my tractor would pick that all up lol. I use a ton of wood in my boiler. I hear a house and barn/workshop that was built in late 1890’s. Due to that keeping up with fire wood is almost a full time endeavor. I used to cut it, split it, stack it. Etc. now I cut it and split it and I to a giant pile wood it goes. This allows me to get more cutting and splitting done since I don’t stack it. I have to cut and split because my wife has to load the furnace when I’m away due to work. So I dream of getting a grapple that lets me grab wood from the pile and move it next to the stove for my wife whilst I’m gone. When I’m home I load the stove using the tractor and forks sliding 3.5ft length logs as big around as I dare. That way she get a solid 24 hours before it needs reloading.

 

[4570Man]

The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

My dream stove is an auger feed chip burner. I can get free chipper chips from tree guys. Then I could feed a hopper with a tractor bucket. That would mean no more cutting firewood and no more handling wood.

 

[onefamilyfarm]

Ordered my 60" single lid today. I have a bunch of brush piles and logs waiting for it.