How many miles on your vehicle before sell or trade?

[Powderdreams]

I had a 1989 Ford Ranger we put 398k on it before we donated it to some in laws that were needing a little assistance. Plan to exceed the mileage with our Chev Duramax.

 

[ultrarunner]

One of the things that hasn't been discussed are the advantages of modern safety equipment.
After the Takata disaster, frankly I don't trust any of those 30 year old airbags to work.

I'm a retired low mileage guy and my truck only has 23k miles on it after almost three years. My hemi Ram 1500 just had two roller tappets replaced to get rid of the "hemi tick" and it worked. Love the truck, full airbag suspension, some of you guys in older trucks should try the nicer ride of the newer models.

The problem is pricing. We all know the manufacturers add at least ten grand of extra profit on these trucks. I have bought two Rams, a diesel dually for 11 grand off list price and my current hemi for 9 grand off. Reminds me of Harbor Freight pricing, who can trust them?
So your 60 grand truck is really a 50 grand truck. But let's face it, you don't have to buy the Platinum model. I much prefer cloth seats so as not to slide around, but hard to get cloth in nicer models.

Ram/FCA has lagged GM and Ford on safety. Maybe they will catch up in 2019. Having been in insurance most of my life, I want the safest thing I can drive. Adaptive cruise and autostop on Subaru have convinced me modern safety systems are good to have.
But of course they are just one more complex system to break, often requiring the dealer and not owner serviceable. Anyone who wrenches their own trucks won't like that at all. We are now driving four wheel computers. Am pretty sure many of you want no part of that.

I like reliability first and foremost and so far I have had a good run in this regard with my older equipment.

What I have seen increasing is leased vehicles... friends, colleagues and partners are all opting to lease... maybe a sign of the times... few want to own anything out of warranty... cars, trucks, washing machines... etc.

I own a one owner beautiful Range Rover for a song... the tilt on the steering stopped working... Dealer estimate 6k to repair... added to an intermittent air suspension issue was enough to for the owner to trade... this was a 90k vehicle new and certainly the finest I have ever owned... 5% retained value after 10 years after deducting from repair is what the Dealer offered as trade on a new King Ranch Super Duty...

Driven it to work a few times and created quite a stir... like did I win the lottery or did I get a raise... the vehicle detailed like new... my old older vintage Toyota Corolla would sell for more as it is also like new... but the Rover gets all the attention.

Perception is often reality... just glad I didn't pay 90k for it not that I ever would...

As to Dodge... my neighbor who tows 30,000 miles annually for his business just did the unthinkable... he bought a new Dodge... after years of only Ford and GMC... had some really nice trucks but all were a disappointment reliability wise except for his Diesel Excursion bought new in the 90's... never a lick of trouble on that one... he is one that will not own out of warranty... had the entire drive train replaced on the GMC

 

[Rock Crawler]

I like reliability first and foremost and so far I have had a good run in this regard with my older equipment.

What I have seen increasing is leased vehicles... friends, colleagues and partners are all opting to lease... maybe a sign of the times... few want to own anything out of warranty... cars, trucks, washing machines... etc.

I own a one owner beautiful Range Rover for a song... the tilt on the steering stopped working... Dealer estimate 6k to repair... added to an intermittent air suspension issue was enough to for the owner to trade... this was a 90k vehicle new and certainly the finest I have ever owned... 5% retained value after 10 years after deducting from repair is what the Dealer offered as trade on a new King Ranch Super Duty...

Driven it to work a few times and created quite a stir... like did I win the lottery or did I get a raise... the vehicle detailed like new... my old older vintage Toyota Corolla would sell for more as it is also like new... but the Rover gets all the attention.

Perception is often reality... just glad I didn't pay 90k for it not that I ever would...

As to Dodge... my neighbor who tows 30,000 miles annually for his business just did the unthinkable... he bought a new Dodge... after years of only Ford and GMC... had some really nice trucks but all were a disappointment reliability wise except for his Diesel Excursion bought new in the 90's... never a lick of trouble on that one... he is one that will not own out of warranty... had the entire drive train replaced on the GMC

There Ford Excursion was produced from 2000 to 2005. There is no Excursion from the 90's. I owned a 2000 Excursion 7.3L diesel, it was the longest I'd ever had a vehicle. The greatest vehicle I'll ever have owned. Typically we buy new and trade in at the 2 to 3 year point. I've been leasing in recent years. My current fleet is a leased 2017 Ram Rebel Mojave Sand edition, a purchased 2016 Cherokee TrailHawk and my toy... A 2014 Wrangler Willys Wheeler edition sitting on 37"x13.5" tires with ProRock axles and hydraulic ram steering.

I rarely see 40k miles on a vehicle I buy. I like new, hands off, totally warranted, shiny and new, and some sort of special edition or rare version.

I've had a 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Transformers 3 edition, Mazdaspeed 6 all wheel drive turbo car in black cherry, Nissan Frontier with 6 speed and Supercharger, 2005 Ram 2500 5.9L Cummins crew cab long bed drag racing truck, the Excursion and my 16th birthday gift from my father that I still have... My 1971 Chevelle SS. Then there is the long list of more mundane daily driver vehicles that have passed by us.

I'm a car nut, so I spend a lot of money on vehicles. It doesn't bother me.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Been thinking that I may buy a Jeep in the next year or two for a run about vehicle. I have my truck but mostly only use it to tow and the wife and I would enjoy a Wrangler for running around locally. Darn easy to fit about anywhere, great in the snow, and I love how you can modify any thing on them to make it exactly how you want it.
Have to say, after seeing the sticker prices at the dealer, thinking used will be the way to go. Chrysler is darn proud of those little vehicles! LOL

Both my last 2008 and my current 2012 jk unlimited I bought used (low mileage trade ins) about 12-15000 miles. The prices are much lower that way. Both times I traded in my wranglers, I got = or greater than I paid. Then really negotiated the price on the used I was going to purchase. I can't wait to see how much the dealers will want for the new diesel option in 2018.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

4.0L straight 6?

Yes it was, couldn't kill it

 

[goeduck]

Yes it was, couldn't kill it

I always wanted one of those. Straight six bulletproof.

 

[ovrszd]

I always wanted one of those. Straight six bulletproof.

It's my opinion that the straight six design is the best, regardless of brand. Something about that configuration that simply works.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

We had a 60 something chevy truck on the farm, with straight 6. It ran great.

 

[ultrarunner]

There Ford Excursion was produced from 2000 to 2005. There is no Excursion from the 90's. I owned a 2000 Excursion 7.3L diesel, it was the longest I'd ever had a vehicle. The greatest vehicle I'll ever have owned. Typically we buy new and trade in at the 2 to 3 year point. I've been leasing in recent years. My current fleet is a leased 2017 Ram Rebel Mojave Sand edition, a purchased 2016 Cherokee TrailHawk and my toy... A 2014 Wrangler Willys Wheeler edition sitting on 37"x13.5" tires with ProRock axles and hydraulic ram steering.

I rarely see 40k miles on a vehicle I buy. I like new, hands off, totally warranted, shiny and new, and some sort of special edition or rare version.

I've had a 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Transformers 3 edition, Mazdaspeed 6 all wheel drive turbo car in black cherry, Nissan Frontier with 6 speed and Supercharger, 2005 Ram 2500 5.9L Cummins crew cab long bed drag racing truck, the Excursion and my 16th birthday gift from my father that I still have... My 1971 Chevelle SS. Then there is the long list of more mundane daily driver vehicles that have passed by us.

I'm a car nut, so I spend a lot of money on vehicles. It doesn't bother me.

Don't know why but I was thinking they bought in 1999... had until traded for a crew cab with turbo???

Always had the car bug but even with 50 I don't spend a lot of money on them... only one new in the lot and that was because the deal for factory delivery in Germany and needing a car there was too good to pass up... never planned to keep it...

Bought my first car with money earned when I was 12... old Model A Ford... paid a $1000 for it... from then I was hooked.

 

[goeduck]

It's my opinion that the straight six design is the best, regardless of brand. Something about that configuration that simply works.

Here is an explanation from bangshift.com


An inline six engine is in perfect primary and secondary mechanical balance, which can be achieved without using a balance shaft. The engine is in primary balance because the front and rear trio of cylinders are mirror images and the pistons move in pairs. That is, piston #1 balances #6, #2 balances #5, and #3 balances #4, largely eliminating the polar rocking motion that would otherwise result. Secondary imbalance is avoided because an inline six cylinder crankshaft has six crank throws arranged in three planes displaced at 120 degrees. The result is that differences in piston speed at any given point in rotation are effectively canceled.

An inline four cylinder or V6 engine without a balance shaft will experience secondary dynamic imbalance, resulting in engine vibration. As a general rule, the forces arising from any dynamic imbalance increase as the square of the engine speed?that is, if the speed doubles, vibration will increase by a factor of four. In contrast, inline six engines have no primary or secondary imbalances, and with carefully designed crankshaft vibration dampers to absorb torsional vibration, will run more smoothly at the same crankshaft speed (RPM). .