Your Land is my Land

   / Your Land is my Land #91  
I had that problem with a neighbor who kept pasturing his cattle on my land. I talked to him for several months, but he didn't put up fences, so I took mine down along the county road. After ending up with 50 head on the highway, he put up a fence. The previous owner told me he had similar problems. I would make sure there were good survey markers, then put up a fence. If he damages it, that's criminal trespass. You can also sue him for the cost of fixing the fence. Fencing contractors are expensive. It's up to you to defend your property. Nobody else will do it for you.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #92  
Oh, my. I suggested a book about dispute resolution as a way to avoid escalation. I don't give a rat's backside about anyone's "feelings". I'm just saying that this can go wrong and it's best to listen to the tales of others who have actually been there and done that rather than the trial and error thing. Books can be the collective wisdom of the personal experiences of others in the same shoes.

This guy probably believes he owns that parcel and now that we know he's in a couple of positions of authority, he has a degree of local respect that has to be considered. Get the survey yes, and then try to ask why he does this. There's always time to be tough but you have to live in that community and other things can go your way or not go your way based on the perception of others. "Feelings"? Nah, don't lump me in with that batch.


Oh, my suggestions come from having done it the wrong way decades ago and then successfully navigating a few other issues over the years the right way. Easy is always better than difficult but that's a learning experience.

Your own words, right here, post #5:

-----------Let me offer a different approach. Try to find out what motivates the farmer and it's likely something other than farming. Try not to raise the ante right now.

There is a book by a former private investigator and advisor to the stars etc that explains what motivates people to do the things they do and how to get them to stop doing it. -------------

"Find out what motivates the farmer..."

Feels?

Read OP's first post in this thread again. Then read it over again, slower.

He's been asking the neighbor to stop doing this FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW. Neighbor DOESN'T DISPUTE that he DOESN'T OWN the land he's trespassing on. All of that, all of it, was information that the OP gave us in the very first post.

Also, neighbor has destroyed his property, vandalized it, and criminally trespassed, all while KNOWING the property belonged to his neighbor (the OP).

Reading is fundamental.

Now, why the OP waited seven YEARS to finally do something is beyond me, but it's his call to make, not mine.

So, either read books about feelings, or go and actually do something about it. Maybe get him a stuffed animal, or a pony, or a new bike with a shiny bell on it. Give it a try.

Personally, I would have corrected the problem 7 years ago. There's misunderstandings, which can be solved by "talking" and exchange of information, and then there's deliberate, wanton criminal activity and disregard for property rights. Those 2 things are not solved the same way.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #93  
Two top things you need

Survey and lawyer. Then once you know he is trespassing send him a letter telling him to stop. If that does not work have your lawyer send him one certified.

If that does not work fence and game cameras. Your lawyer can likely get the local prosecutor to take action then. If he is too much of a local big wig call the state police.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #94  
After you get it surveyed sell him the 30' he needs. If he doesn't want to buy then put up fence and pursue legal action if he causes damage.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #95  
Do you have an old two or three bottom plow? If you do run it down the line two or three times digging out the furrow and piling the dirt up. This will make it impossible for the helpers to park their vehicles on you. It will not be good on his equipment making the turns. If he fills it in hire somebody to come out and redo the work and send him the bill.

Establish that it is your land and you don't want him on it.

Be sure you are on your side with the furrow.

If that fails then go the lawyer route.

Cheapest thing you can do. Anything else is going to cost you money.

RSKY
 
   / Your Land is my Land #96  
I agree with trying to work out a solution. If you don’t like the idea you should have stopped it 7 years ago before he had a bunch of established vines to tear up. I don’t do it everyday but as long as it’s not muddy I’ll drive over land borders pretty often. If I’m mowing I’ll cut a pass over the line pretty much every time there’s no obstacle in place. I’ve always considered it to be the nice thing to do. Only 2 people out of probably 100 has asked me not to.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #97  
What about planing a line of trees along your property line? Screening trees? Hedge type trees? Or just ornamental junk trees?
 
   / Your Land is my Land #98  
When is the survey being done?
 
   / Your Land is my Land #99  
What about planing a line of trees along your property line? Screening trees? Hedge type trees? Or just ornamental junk trees?

I like this idea.
 
   / Your Land is my Land #100  
Put two pallets in an inverted V formation at the end of every row. Make sure they are in your field and on your side of the property line. He will be confused for years on how to make sense of what he sees. :roadblock: :hypnodisk: :hypnodisk: :roadblock:
 

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