Oil & Fuel Tractor Use of Red Dyed Fuel on Public Roads

[4570Man]

Are you sure that those aren't old stickers?
The EPA would seem to disagree with your assessment, they say that all fuel (on and off road) should be ULSD at this point:


Aaron Z

The local station still uses an ancient pump with rotary wheels for the measurement and turns on when you flip the switch. The sticker just says diesel with another big sign explaining the non taxable use only. The station claims its ULSD.

 

[smstonypoint]

The local station still uses an ancient pump with rotary wheels for the measurement and turns on when you flip the switch.

Is that Wally's? Does Goober still work there?

Steve

 

[aspg4]

Care to verify that nugget about an OUI while on a Tractor on private property? My BS meter just blew up.

In my state if the law says "within the state" then the law can be enforced anywhere in the state including private property. If the law says on the "roadway or highway" then the law can only be enforced on the public roadways... Retired trooper.......

 

[charlton289]

I know alot of the newer tractors are required to use the on road fuel my GC 1705 is that way it says to use ulsd diesel only so if you have one of the newer one that also uses def your safe either way.

 

[aczlan]

I know alot of the newer tractors are required to use the on road fuel my GC 1705 is that way it says to use ulsd diesel only so if you have one of the newer one that also uses def your safe either way.

Both on and off road diesel fuel is ulsd in the US, has been that way since at least 2014, 2010 in some areas. The only difference between the two is the red dye.

Aaron Z

 

[daybreak1998]

Howdy,
Way to many internet rumors flying around.

A fuel depot terminal with a 1,000,000 gallon tank with 15ppm ULSD pumps 8,000 gallons into a tanker truck. The tanker truck takes it back to its own company distribution tanks. A delivery truck fills up with 3,000 gallons. That truck is going out to delivery... heating fuel oil, off-road fuel tanks. They add a red dye to show the product is not road taxed. (People from Washington do not need to make comments about tax)

By today, May 2018, all diesel fuel being sold in public consumption is 15ppm ULSD.

HHO = home heating oil = can be different. If there was some kind of kerosene that dropped to 20 cents a gallon, then a separate tank would be dyed and delivered for home heating.

15ppm ULSD needs to meet certain specs. It has lubricity modifiers, low smoke additives, etc...

HHO does not need these things. It could have a higher amount of kerosene etc..

The fuel terminal would have to keep separate stock of many flavors. It was found to be easier to keep 1 product and add the red dye for final delivery use.

Original topic.
Off-road diesel is just that. Off-road vehicles. Tractors.

Around here the D.O.T. inspectors will do checks around livestock sale barns.

 

[MHarryE]

Minnesota has been mentioned in this thread. Dyed fuel is okay to use in off highway equipment like tractors driven on public roads but the law states that unless used for agriculture, a person must pay state sales tax. I've never heard of this being followed up on for small users but contractors using off highway fuel in their dozer, excavator, etc., have been caught in tax audits. A contractor I know who claimed ignorance of the law had to go back 5 years when he was caught. In theory I am supposed to record fuel used in my diesel lawnmower and pay sales tax on it but its like a few dollars per year out of the thousands I pay for at fuel.

 

[joecoin]

A little off topic:

In Ohio years ago you could get a "Farm" plate for your pickup. That allowed you to forgo paying the state excise tax on gasoline. Restrictions were in place that limited the amount of on road driving and distance away from the farm.

Don't know how they enforced it, especially with no computers back then.

I saw a mint restored Chevy C10 a few months ago, it had a Farm plate. The owner told me that the plate was original with the truck so it was still legal. But he doesn't get the tax break any longer.

 

[4570Man]

Minnesota has been mentioned in this thread. Dyed fuel is okay to use in off highway equipment like tractors driven on public roads but the law states that unless used for agriculture, a person must pay state sales tax. I've never heard of this being followed up on for small users but contractors using off highway fuel in their dozer, excavator, etc., have been caught in tax audits. A contractor I know who claimed ignorance of the law had to go back 5 years when he was caught. In theory I am supposed to record fuel used in my diesel lawnmower and pay sales tax on it but its like a few dollars per year out of the thousands I pay for at fuel.

I’m sure glad a live in a pretty lenient state. No CDL to pull my GN, no tags on my trailer, no enforcement on GVW, red fuel in everything except trucks. And except the GVW everything is legal.

 

[BrokenTrack]

Here in Maine anyway, off road equipment does have to be registered and tagged with plates at times. I have actually seen bulldozers with license plates that were up to date. That is because any contractor working for the Maine Dept of Transportation is required by law to register the equipment since they are working on public roads.


I still think it is stupid, but go through a state construction zone and you will see license plates on all the equipment. I would assume they would have to operate with on-road fuel too.