Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :(

   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :( #21  
Nice looking Shepherd. How did you train it not to kill your chickens? I have Akita's and they kill everything that gets into their yard. Snakes, racoons, rabbits and of course, my chickens.
Each my my herding dogs (minus Willy) has killed one chicken. They were taught right then - that was a really bad idea and pissed off the big dog. Herding dogs are pack animals and don't like to be "in the dog house". Willy and the cats were a bigger challenge. He, along with every other animal that's encountered a cat in full claws mode leaves em alone, but he loves to chase critters and most cats will run first. I clocked him at 33 mph. That's a hundred pounds in flight. He can clear a four foot fence.
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :( #22  
Each my my herding dogs (minus Willy) has killed one chicken. They were taught right then - that was a really bad idea and pissed off the big dog. Herding dogs are pack animals and don't like to be "in the dog house". Willy and the cats were a bigger challenge. He, along with every other animal that's encountered a cat in full claws mode leaves em alone, but he loves to chase critters and most cats will run first. I clocked him at 33 mph. That's a hundred pounds in flight. He can clear a four foot fence.
As a kid (1950s) we had a collie, great dog but killed the neighbors chickens. The solution back then was tie a dead chicken around dogs neck until it rotted off. That dog never killed another chicken.
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :( #23  
I have about one acre of pheasant pens;electric fence cured my four legged problem.Not just coons but also we have skunks,opposum and fox.I still catch a few coons in a Duke's dog-proof.
I have mine on a dusk/dawn timer;so off during the day.
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :(
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I have most or all of the suggestions listed above yet haven't had problems in so long that I had gotten complacent. My henhouse has an attached 12x18 foot enclosure made from chicken wire for when they aren't free ranging, when I built it I dumped rocks picked from my garden all around the perimeter to discourage tunneling under. My meat birds were in a dog kennel with chicken wire over the top; it turns out that the chicken wire comes right apart with little effort by a predator. Both enclosures are about 1/4 mile up the road from my house, whereas my previously mentioned turkeys were right outside the house and I heard the little bugger reach through the 2x4 inch wire to steal the birds.

New defenses include the following;
All living birds are in the chicken coop for now. I purchased a Duke's dog proof and bag of marshmallows for bait. (If I don't eat them all first.) :p
It's been a long time since I've laid steel, but right now I have a couple of 1 3/4 Victors derusting in wood ashes. Tomorrow I will dip them, and set them in the dog kennel where I've been leaving a little chicken feed to keep them coming back. My game camera shows two coons in that locale.
my .22 magnum revolver is loaded and easily accessible, I go for nightly rides at the time when they have been on the trail cam.

I'm tapping into the 12 volt fence charger which runs my pig pen fencing. Hopefully it's got enough juice to run both, as the last thing I need is for my pigs to get out. :eek:

Next year I have plans to build a coop nearer to the house, so that I can use my 120 volt fence charger.

Each my my herding dogs (minus Willy) has killed one chicken. They were taught right then - that was a really bad idea and pissed off the big dog. Herding dogs are pack animals and don't like to be "in the dog house". Willy and the cats were a bigger challenge. He, along with every other animal that's encountered a cat in full claws mode leaves em alone, but he loves to chase critters and most cats will run first. I clocked him at 33 mph. That's a hundred pounds in flight. He can clear a four foot fence.
My lab also learned after killing his first chicken that it wasn't a good idea. He likes to "play" with them though, and helps me track new birds down until they learn to return to the coop at the end of the day. Once I lost a hen and all that I found was a pile of feathers; I assume that it was a hawk because Ruger kept going to the feathers, circling around, and returning to the feathers again, obviously confused where it went.
 
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Electric fence. Done. Cheap.
Thank you...works for me!
Now hawks... July 4th is close. Get some good large bottle rockets and section of pipe. Yesterday outside I knew hawk was near as everything was quiet...then I heard and saw hawk circling overhead. I set off a rocket by holding up a long pipe...it was perfect exploding next to it. It took off, hopefully won't see it back!
 
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Nice looking Shepherd. How did you train it not to kill your chickens? I have Akita's and they kill everything that gets into their yard. Snakes, racoons, rabbits and of course, my chickens.

Went to visit some friends with a large flock of free range chickens. To a dog, chickens are almost irresistible to chase. They squawk, they flap, they run. Their doggy prey drive just kicks in. Until they hear NO ! and the tingle from the E-collar around their neck. The tingle changes to full red hot zap! if they don't stop in their tracks. Taught our two Dobermans in a couple of hours, chickens are not to be messed with. The test is this Fall. Three years later, we're going back to the chickens again. The E-collar will be fully charged... just in case.
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :(
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Went to visit some friends with a large flock of free range chickens. To a dog, chickens are almost irresistible to chase. They squawk, they flap, they run. Their doggy prey drive just kicks in. Until they hear NO ! and the tingle from the E-collar around their neck. The tingle changes to full red hot zap! if they don't stop in their tracks. Taught our two Dobermans in a couple of hours, chickens are not to be messed with. The test is this Fall. Three years later, we're going back to the chickens again. The E-collar will be fully charged... just in case.
After a while the chickens learn to tolerate the dog; instead of running and squawking, they just stop and let him nose them. He knows better than to hurt them so all is well.
>
Then one day a fox comes by and when they stop and squat, Red has an easy dinner.
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :( #29  
Once I lost a hen and all that I found was a pile of feathers

Pretty good bet. Lost a banty hen that way this spring, as you say nothing but a puddle of white feathers. Took us a while to find where the rest of the flock went hiding to get them rounded up and inside again. I hate to lose them so I never let them out, wife hates ticks and says the hens are easier to manage if they get some outside time now and then...?

Regular pen has wire 4" up all around, cheap 120v unit rated to "burn weeds" and for predators, and no battery to charge or maintain. Having helped my old landlord chase cows whenever the weeds got tall enough to short the fence, I really like that aspect. Also have deer netting over the top to discourage hawks, but the 2nd day it was up one got in through a gap. Hard way to learn how big a gap is too big (lost the hen but at least the hawk didn't get to enjoy dinner).
 
   / Fumbling around in the dark to find your gun and magazine is no darned good. :( #30  
+1 on the cage type traps (worked well for my neighbor) and myself having various firearms immediately available. For varmints (dogs primarily), I have a Marlin M60 .22LR with a Redfield point-blank zeroed scope and chronographed ammunition (Aguila Interceptor 40 gr.) for daytime use or a dedicated AR .22LR conversion with Leupold point-blank zeroed scope and a weapon light for nighttime use so I am not hampered with lighting issues. I sometimes replace the AR scope with a Meprolight Red Dot sight. All work well for the purpose.
 

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