Yes, the one who gave his wife an allowance and she spent before I could borrow it back, how'd you guess.................
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Yes, the one who gave his wife an allowance and she spent before I could borrow it back, how'd you guess.................
("Near as I can tell now, I was 'WAY OVER on tension")<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Never thought over tension would cause blade wander, I'd think that would cause blade breakage. What these pyramids made of, 1/4" plate steel? I must of missed those pictures?
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"What these pyramids made of, 1/4" plate steel? I must of missed those pictures? "
Nope, ain't no pics til they actually get DONE - base plates are 3/4" plate, tubing is either 2-1/2" x 1/4" wall or 3x8 rectangular x 1/4" wall. Here's a rough sketch with more 'splainin' -
I should get a few pics manana, but just of cut pieces and my VERY temporary "crane" for those lightweight 350 pound tubes
...Steve
Nope, ain't no pics til they actually get DONE - base plates are 3/4" plate, tubing is either 2-1/2" x 1/4" wall or 3x8 rectangular x 1/4" wall. Here's a rough sketch with more 'splainin' -
I should get a few pics manana, but just of cut pieces and my VERY temporary "crane" for those lightweight 350 pound tubes
...Steve
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Might be a good time to introduce Dual-Shield Flux Core wire to the MM252s diet. 
You still may have to set up a bit of a windbreak, though....
everyone knows its windy - Google Search
You still may have to set up a bit of a windbreak, though....
everyone knows its windy - Google Search
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Got ways of setting up a wind break; what I DON'T got is enough power within range of where the new containers are going to run a transformer machine hard enough to matter - so if I do anything "remote", it'd get done either with the "go anywhere" mm211, or the little Everlast tig/stick and some 6011/7018...
The plan (for lack of a better word) is to weld up all the individual "pyramids" on the big table with the mm252, then toss 'em in the 580's bucket for "delivery" - then jack up each container and push 'em under, fine tune with 8# hammer and/or pry bar...
If the first one takes too long using C25, I might pick up a bottle of spray mix since most of those welds will be "flatlander style" anyway - what little OOP (a few vertical ups) I'd need can be done with the mm211 without having to switch things around...
I've thought about the dual shield stuff a bit though, might need to check it out more if/when I ever get caught up enough to realize I'm BEHIND ...Steve
- so if I do anything "remote", it'd get done either with the "go anywhere" mm211, or the little Everlast tig/stick and some 6011/7018...The plan (for lack of a better word) is to weld up all the individual "pyramids" on the big table with the mm252, then toss 'em in the 580's bucket for "delivery" - then jack up each container and push 'em under, fine tune with 8# hammer and/or pry bar...
If the first one takes too long using C25, I might pick up a bottle of spray mix since most of those welds will be "flatlander style" anyway - what little OOP (a few vertical ups) I'd need can be done with the mm211 without having to switch things around...
I've thought about the dual shield stuff a bit though, might need to check it out more if/when I ever get caught up enough to realize I'm BEHIND
...Steve"What these pyramids made of, 1/4" plate steel? I must of missed those pictures? "
Nope, ain't no pics til they actually get DONE - base plates are 3/4" plate, tubing is either 2-1/2" x 1/4" wall or 3x8 rectangular x 1/4" wall. Here's a rough sketch with more 'splainin' - View attachment 560955
I should get a few pics manana, but just of cut pieces and my VERY temporary "crane" for those lightweight 350 pound tubes
Oh now I get it betterah, you know if you dont cap those square tube ends they'd make great place for the wasps, yellow jackets live and protect you from an alien invasion.
Might be a good time to introduce Dual-Shield Flux Core wire to the MM252s diet.
You still may have to set up a bit of a windbreak, though....
everyone knows its windy - Google Search
How about some good ole fashion 6011 and make it more challenging, then you can weld in damp drizzly weather laying on the ground and get some new shocking new ideas on how to build a square tube pyramid.
Since someone brought up stick welding, I have this welding cable that says 2/0 but it's kinda stiff and heavy, want to get a next size smaller in a 15' length, the smaller one I have now with the electrode holder on it is 10' long, not long enough, and it doesn't have any numbers on it. So by looking at these two pics, who has the weld size cable talent for guessing what the this smaller size is is is, is it 1/0 maybe-ish?
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The one with the electrode holder looks to be about 1/16" smaller - if insulation's the same thickness on both, that'd mean the smaller one's either a slightly thin 1/0, or a slightly fat 1 gauge - here's a chart
American wire gauge - Wikipedia
hit the page down 5 or 6 times for the chart - ignore everything but the left side, shows gauge (AWG) and diameters.
Here's the heavy math - 1/16" is just over .062 inches, so if you take the 2/0 diameter and subtract the 1 ga. diameter
0.36480
- 0.28930
= 0.0755
Which is more difference than your pic show; so your smaller wire could be either 1/0 or 1
You could also do what I did with my "too short/too small" original lead - add some tweco style connectors (male/female) and use the original lead as a whip, then just get something like these -
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If you buy just black cable, you can always "color code" the ends, tweco and others come in male/female pairs in either black or red. Here's what I did -
there's a total of 101 feet of cable; some red, some black, electrons don't care so I can mix/match whatever reaches - I also put the same connectors on my mig grounds, so if needed I can have any ground up to about 80 feet, and the 30A spool gun lets me reach up to 30 feet from the welder and ground it anywhere I want...
I also bought some DInse connectors that fit the new little tig/stick machine and built some 1 foot adapter cables with the tweco types on the other end, so the little machine can reach anything too -
Here's what I got -
US Forge Welding Black Cable Connectors #4 thru #1/ - - Amazon.com
US Forge Welding Red Cable Connectors for No. 4 thru No. 1/ - Power Welders - Amazon.com
And the Dinse to make adapters for the little tig/stick -
WeldingCity Welding Cable Quick Connector Pair DINSE-Style 3Amp-4Amp (#1-2/) 5-7 SQ-MM - Mig Welding Equipment - Amazon.com
I got my raw cable at the LWS, they usually treat me good (since 1979) - all my cables are 1/0, 100 foot "round trip) is no problem running 5/32 7018, and that smaller diameter electrode "whip" lets me have flexibility where I need it WITHOUT much loss in the cables -
If you're gonna make more than a couple of your own cables, do yourself a favor and get one of these
https://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-cable-cutters-61422.html
Much easier cutting big wires, doesn't "squish 'em out" near as bad.
Also, make sure any connectors you get will handle whatever size cable you get; if they say "up to 1/0, you will NOT get a 2/0 cable in there unless you wanna cut a bunch of strands off it... Steve
American wire gauge - Wikipedia
hit the page down 5 or 6 times for the chart - ignore everything but the left side, shows gauge (AWG) and diameters.
Here's the heavy math
- 1/16" is just over .062 inches, so if you take the 2/0 diameter and subtract the 1 ga. diameter0.36480
- 0.28930
= 0.0755
Which is more difference than your pic show; so your smaller wire could be either 1/0 or 1
You could also do what I did with my "too short/too small" original lead - add some tweco style connectors (male/female) and use the original lead as a whip, then just get something like these -
Access Denied
If you buy just black cable, you can always "color code" the ends, tweco and others come in male/female pairs in either black or red. Here's what I did -
there's a total of 101 feet of cable; some red, some black, electrons don't care so I can mix/match whatever reaches - I also put the same connectors on my mig grounds, so if needed I can have any ground up to about 80 feet, and the 30A spool gun lets me reach up to 30 feet from the welder and ground it anywhere I want...I also bought some DInse connectors that fit the new little tig/stick machine and built some 1 foot adapter cables with the tweco types on the other end, so the little machine can reach anything too -
Here's what I got -
US Forge Welding Black Cable Connectors #4 thru #1/ - - Amazon.com
US Forge Welding Red Cable Connectors for No. 4 thru No. 1/ - Power Welders - Amazon.com
And the Dinse to make adapters for the little tig/stick -
WeldingCity Welding Cable Quick Connector Pair DINSE-Style 3Amp-4Amp (#1-2/) 5-7 SQ-MM - Mig Welding Equipment - Amazon.com
I got my raw cable at the LWS, they usually treat me good (since 1979) - all my cables are 1/0, 100 foot "round trip) is no problem running 5/32 7018, and that smaller diameter electrode "whip" lets me have flexibility where I need it WITHOUT much loss in the cables -
If you're gonna make more than a couple of your own cables, do yourself a favor and get one of these
https://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-cable-cutters-61422.html
Much easier cutting big wires, doesn't "squish 'em out" near as bad.
Also, make sure any connectors you get will handle whatever size cable you get; if they say "up to 1/0, you will NOT get a 2/0 cable in there unless you wanna cut a bunch of strands off it... Steve
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I actually started out tonite to do a different post - now I'm late and it's tired so short version - here's pics of all the "pyramid parts" (stacked as they will end up) 
except for the 3/4" plate bases, which will be 27"x32" at each location - oh, and a couple shots of my new "temporary helper" - works great for getting steel from the wall near the door to the bandsaw - that piece of tube weighed just under 200# before I cut another 3 feet off it... Steve
so short version - here's pics of all the "pyramid parts" (stacked as they will end up) except for the 3/4" plate bases, which will be 27"x32" at each location - oh, and a couple shots of my new "temporary helper" - works great for getting steel from the wall near the door to the bandsaw - that piece of tube weighed just under 200# before I cut another 3 feet off it... Steve