Neighbors and their many running wild dogs

[Jstpssng]

I am the bad neighbor. We just moved to a farm house about 15 miles from where we are building our own place. I use a radio controlled perimeter fence system with shock collars for my two Podencos. The older one stays within the limits of the system, but the younger one has run thru the system twice and taken off. We have since recalibrated the transmitter and collars and they seem to be working properly but when the dog took off, he was gone for many hours and I could hear him in the distance barking. The first time was about 10:30pm and he didn't come home till 3 am. The second time was in the early morning and he was gone till the afternoon. I could hear him barking in the distance and used google maps to figure out where the roads were that would get me to where he was. I didn't find him but he was waiting on the porch when I got back. He was completely torn up with cuts and abrasions and his eyes were very swollen from running thru tall grass and getting loads of pollen and debris in them.
That was enough for me. That was when I recalibrated the transmitter and collar. But the next day I stopped at Cabella's and bought a Garmin Alpha 100 GPS tracking/training collar and handheld. I have been training him on this and we put it on him regularly when he is outside. I don't want to lose my dog. I don't want him harassing anyone else's dogs or other animals and they would be completely justified in shooting him if he was.

Yet the $50,000 question is Would you have accepted responsibility if he had caused injury or death to one of your neighbor's animals?" I believe that was the OP's point when he started this thread.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Yet the $50,000 question is Would you have accepted responsibility if he had caused injury or death to one of your neighbor's animals?" I believe that was the OP's point when he started this thread.

Seems a silly question. My dog, my responsibility.

 

[rekees4300]

My dog, my responsibility.

:thumbsup: That is the Golden Rule of dog ownership but unfortunately many ignorant owners don't know it.

 

[TheMan419]

Seems a silly question. My dog, my responsibility.

Then you are not the bad neighbor. Your dog was getting lose and you took steps to solve that problem.

 

[flyerdan]

Yep, you're definitely doing things right, if you have a Nextdoor or fb group for your area, you might consider posting a pic of the dog and explaining that you're in the process of fence training him, "but he's a willful little git and if he gets out and you spot him let us know"...type of message. At least then people will be aware and know that you are tying and care about being a good neighbor.

 

[goeduck]

Every dog has to be taught some things not to do. Some more than others, but all need correcting and you are doing that. Good job.

 

[D2Cat]

Had a friend who had a black lab that wouldn't stay home. He came over to our place often. I asked the owner to contain his dog several time. Made no difference.

Finally I came up with a simple solution. Mowed a patch of grass as low as the mower would go. Cut three pieces of old broom handle about 10" long. Took old metal oil drain pan and drilled 2ea 1/8" holes near the top. Cleaned the metal good with sand paper and ran a wire through one hole to the other and then wrapped them together. Took water hose and soaked the ground around the mowed area. Drove the three dowels in the damp soil in a triangular fashion leaving them about 2" about the ground. Set the pan on the three dowels. Ran the wire to my fence charger. Put gravy and pieces of hotdog in pan. Activate charger.

That evening, about 20 minutes after I made the eating arrangements I heard a yelping for quite a while as that dog left! He never visited our place again.

 

[ultrarunner]

A strong well-placed shock is something livestock don't seem to forget.

For some reason the Deer seem to be the least affected... not sure why?

Mom's garden as a 4' tall cyclone fence around it... heavy gauge like the way they use to make them.

Animals try once to crawl over until they hit the hot wire on the top while firmly clinging to the metal fence which is grounded to the charger... very effective.

The deer just seem to brush against the hot wire while in "Flight" like it isn't even there.

 

[Dftodd]

A strong well-placed shock is something livestock don't seem to forget.

For some reason the Deer seem the least affected........ not sure why?

The deer just seem to brush against the hot wire while in "Flight" like it isn't even there.

It's the same reason why birds can sit on a hi voltage power line and not be effected. They have to be grounded out in order to get shocked. If a deer is jumping over the fence then it's not grounded out.

Try putting pie tins on the hot line with some treats for the deer. Remember seeing a post about a farmer doing that on an electric fence to keep deer at bay on another forum. Can't remember what he used for bait.

 

[ultrarunner]

Sometimes 30+ deer on 65 acres... the destruction in one night is devastation for the farmer...

So far the tall fences put in a cost of 70k is greatly reduced the incursion... but the fences abutting the highway are still on 6 feet... deer are not totally dumb when it comes to foraging... so they come in from the highway side now.