Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS

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I don't know how stable these things are. Maybe people getting off their seats would raise the center of gravity. I think DUCK TRUCK would be a more apt description.

It is more truck than boat without a doubt. By the way our weather forecasting at least about violent storms is pretty good. If they say it is gonna "blow" it is gonna blow. Not to mention just watching the radar yourself either on TV or your phone. You can see these things for yourself, and draw your own conclusions. I sure did. I unplugged all my radio equipment, and turned the beam antenna into the wind. and sat it out. I was not sure the antennas were going to even make it. Or even if the shingles were gonna make it for that matter.
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #94  
I've ridden them twice at that location with big family gatherings and we had lots of fun and memories.
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Do you know/guess the distance across the body of water they had to cross?

Pretty sure USCG has inspection authority/responsibility for passenger carrying vessels. I wonder if the DUCKs are exempt. What bothers me is the covering on the DUCKS. They would hinder/prevent people from escaping and make PFD usage problematic.

In sailing there is a debate, that can never be settled, about the use of inflatable PFDs. Should the inflatable PFDs inflate automatically when under water or should one use a manual inflatable? Basically it gets down to the roll of the dice. Will one be knocked out when going into the water where an automatic inflating PFD could save your life or will the automatic inflating PFD pin you in the cabin in a sinking or prevent one from swimming out in a capsize. Take your pick of poison...

The NTSB report will be interesting in regards to USCG inspections and regulations regarding the covering...

Being stuck under the canopy with a PFD on would make escaping more difficult. But that may be a moot point if the passengers could not get out at all.

We noticed DUCKs in Dublin doing tours of the city. They went from St. Stephens Green north and eventually went into the River Liffey. From the photos I have seen, the canopy APPEARS to be easily rolled back, the passengers where wearing PFDs, and the DUCKs had inflatable bags on the side.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #95  
At what point in an unfolding tragedy do you do what? Someone mentioned if someone had a knife. At what point do you start slashing apart the canopy? At the first sign of trouble? When the boat starts to roll over is probably too late.
 
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Were they telling the people not to grab the life preservers because it would have been added work for the boat operators to re-stow them?

That's just stupid.

Most likely, they didn't want everyone getting up and running around, throwing off the balance of what was left of the boat, which would have surely tipped it to one side or the other.
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #97  
Do you know/guess the distance across the body of water they had to cross?

Pretty sure USCG has inspection authority/responsibility for passenger carrying vessels. I wonder if the DUCKs are exempt. What bothers me is the covering on the DUCKS. They would hinder/prevent people from escaping and make PFD usage problematic.

In sailing there is a debate, that can never be settled, about the use of inflatable PFDs. Should the inflatable PFDs inflate automatically when under water or should one use a manual inflatable? Basically it gets down to the roll of the dice. Will one be knocked out when going into the water where an automatic inflating PFD could save your life or will the automatic inflating PFD pin you in the cabin in a sinking or prevent one from swimming out in a capsize. Take your pick of poison...

The NTSB report will be interesting in regards to USCG inspections and regulations regarding the covering...

Being stuck under the canopy with a PFD on would make escaping more difficult. But that may be a moot point if the passengers could not get out at all.

We noticed DUCKs in Dublin doing tours of the city. They went from St. Stephens Green north and eventually went into the River Liffey. From the photos I have seen, the canopy APPEARS to be easily rolled back, the passengers where wearing PFDs, and the DUCKs had inflatable bags on the side.

Later,
Dan

Just the other day someone fell off a boat leaving Chicago in the Chicago to Mackinaw race. They are still missing. They were wearing an inflatable PFD. They don't think it inflated.
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #98  
That's just stupid.

Most likely, they didn't want everyone getting up and running around, throwing off the balance of what was left of the boat, which would have surely tipped it to one side or the other.

Stupid??? You know that the Captain was telling the people that they did not NEED the preservers. Maybe he forgot to say the word YET?
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #99  
Stupid??? You know that the Captain was telling the people that they did not NEED the preservers. Maybe he forgot to say the word YET?

I’m sure a life preserver would have made all those people trapped under the cover feel better. I agree with not letting them run around and shift the boat around to get a useless device. Is there any word on how many people drowned outside the boat on the top of the water?
 
   / Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS #100  
I remember seeing some documentary of a North Sea Ferry Sinking with loss of life. Some time before that event, the captain was being interviewed on the bridge. He became rather irritated when asked how long someone would survive in the ice cold water. "Why would anyone be in the water" he snapped back!

I'm not sure, but it was possibly the case where a rear door used for loading vehicles was not closed properly. Then it broke off in a storm, admitting water causing the loss of the entire vessel. And surprise, surprise, people in the ice cold water!

I think the seeds of a tragedy are often sown from such an attitude.
 
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