cary on 7k trailer... real capacity?

[LD1]

True. But with another ton in the bed heç—´ grossly overweight all the way around. Please post your location so I can be on the lookout.

Unless he is running a dually....with payload capacities of 5k+. In that case....he could probably be safe with another half ton in the bed....and cheat the tongue weight up a little more.

At this point....with no reply from the OP.....we have no idea what his situation and equipment is.....so its all just speculation

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

Hello,
I know technically a trailer with 2 3500lb axles can only hold about 6k payload...
But im sure that this has a large safety margin built in for hitting holes and loads not loaded right...

Every year i have to go about 100 miles to get coal. i try to get as much as possible,
I normally put 3 tons in the trailer and one in my truck..
It has new "E" rated tires on the trailer *15 inch

Is it safe to put 4 tons in this trailer or would the risk of bending something be too high... weight is distributed almost perfectly

on a side not... if I doesnt hit big holes, obviously not all the time, but how much can a 3500lb axle really take?

I have brakes on both axles
Thank you everyone,
Dave

It seems to me that unless time is an extremely critical factor, it would make more sense to make 2 trips with legal and safe loads rather than one gross overload. A 200 mile round trip is going to take roughly 5 hours and burn less than $50 worth of gas. So unless risking your vehicle and trailer is worth saving $50 and 5 hours, it is probably best to come up with another plan

 

[Jstpssng]

Unless he is running a dually....with payload capacities of 5k+. In that case....he could probably be safe with another half ton in the bed....and cheat the tongue weight up a little more.

At this point....with no reply from the OP.....we have no idea what his situation and equipment is.....so its all just speculation

I was thinking the same thing. This most likely will turn into another discussion which continues long after the OP has left the building... especially since he's only had one post.
Depending on what it morphs into, how long do you suppose that it will take to hit 200 posts?

 

[fried1765]

You forgot tongue weight.

7000# trailer - 2000# weight + tongue weight is the actual (legal) carry capacity.

Put 1000# on the tongue and you are fine with your 3 Tino load. But not sure if you are doing that with an additional ton in the bed.


If you have a modern one ton ....put 1000# on the hitch....ton in bed......6k on trailer......yep. that would be fine but that's about the limit.

And.......how big is the truck?
2000 lbs. in the bed, and 1000 lbs. on the hitch?
Is the truck rated for the bed + hitch 3000 lb.total load?

 

[LD1]

And.......how big is the truck?
2000 lbs. in the bed, and 1000 lbs. on the hitch?
Is the truck rated for the bed + hitch 3000 lb.total load?

Probably about any one-ton dually of the last decade or decade and a half

 

[robertsa]

Probably about any one-ton dually of the last decade or decade and a half

And at least one half ton.

 

[fried1765]

Probably about any one-ton dually of the last decade or decade and a half

Looks like we may now be headed for 200+ posts with "probably" entering the story.

 

[crazyal]

Let just hope the trailer doesn't have a rounded off bolt. I think the OP already knew the answer. Can you do it, sure, but will you make it year in and year out (since this sounds like something you do annually) doubtful. When it does go bad then what? If you're lucky you didn't harm or kill anyone but now you are stuck on the side of the road with a disabled trailer with 4 tons of coal on it. Most likely you aren't going to be able to work on it (unless it's just a tire that blew) so now you are going to be transferring the load to another trailer or paying someone with large enough equipment to load the loaded trailer onto theirs to finish the journey. At that point any savings are long gone.

Secondly if you are going to put 3 tons on that trailer I would be replacing the tires on a regular basis even if they look fine. Mobile home dealers routinely use tires rated for much less weight than they put on them by inflating them past their recommended rating with the idea that they put few miles on them before getting rid of them and carrying lots of spares. Heat, UV rays, and the weight will take their toll on tires. You may even want to replace them with a higher rated tire.

 

[RickB]

Unless he is running a dually....with payload capacities of 5k+. In that case....he could probably be safe with another half ton in the bed....and cheat the tongue weight up a little more.

At this point....with no reply from the OP.....we have no idea what his situation and equipment is.....so its all just speculation

There’s no speculation about the trailer being overloaded.

 

[Deere Dude]

Just go by trial and error. Load it up with 4-5 ton and if something breaks just shovel a little off and try again. If something else breaks it is still a little overloaded, shovel a little more off and try again. Sooner or later you will get to where nothing breaks and that will be the sweet spot to go for. Any trip after that you should be in good shape.:laughing::laughing:

Or get all the weight rating in each tire, each wheel, size of ball and connector, size of truck etc, and post again. I would try the trial and error way myself :cool2::cool2: