Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload...

   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #71  
They say the JD Mannheim factory is amazing, and German engineering is of course legendary.

Cue everyone looking at all the labels on their tractor parts tomorrow. :) (Maybe we should start a new thread for that.) I'm proud my FEL was made in Pennsylvania.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #72  
My Mahindra was assembled in the USA too. They have five assembly plants here.

One of them is not too far away from me here in Pennsylvania. Not sure how much full scale assembly goes on there as much as final assembly before delivering to dealers. According to this Mahindra dealer several models are actually assembled in Japan and shipped to the US for final assembly at the distribution centers. It sounds like your Max26XL might actually be a Mitsubishi with a Mahindra sticker on it. Does it have a Mitsu motor?

The Mahindra Tractor Factory in Japan - YouTube
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #73  
One of them is not too far away from me here in Pennsylvania. Not sure how much full scale assembly goes on there as much as final assembly before delivering to dealers. According to this Mahindra dealer several models are actually assembled in Japan and shipped to the US for final assembly at the distribution centers. It sounds like your Max26XL might actually be a Mitsubishi with a Mahindra sticker on it. Does it have a Mitsu motor?

The Mahindra Tractor Factory in Japan - YouTube

Can't say what they do at the US assembly plants, presumably they assemble something.:) AFAIK there are no Mahindra assembly plants in Japan. You're saying Mitsubishi actually builds the entire tractor in Japan for Mahindra? I suppose it's possible, since Mahindra owns 33% of Mitsubishi. But I believe only the engine is Mitsubishi. With these "frankenstein" tractors we own, it's hard to tell for sure!

Mahindra is opening the first new automotive plant in Detroit in 25 years, for off-road vehicles. They are also planning a full-scale tractor manufacturing plant in Texas. Like I said, I don't really care as long as it's a good tractor.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #74  
I would consider what storage you may have for your tractor. I keep mine in the garage which is one of the reasons why I purchased a 1705 MF. We have 8 acres all woods. Probably about 1.5 acres to mow. I do lots of grading with it. I use it a lot when I'm splitting wood. For a small tractor it gets most any job done that I have for it. For bigger jobs I just rent an excavator. Which I will most likely be doing in the fall to take down a few more trees.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #75  
Late to the party but here’s my $0.02

I have a property much like yours, 17 acres, 10 in woods that will stay that way. I do move snow here. A couple pieces of advice I’ll reiterate.

Shop the dealership, not the brand. Let’s say you decide to flail mow a couple acres of really overgrown pasture with lots of woodies. It’s Saturday at 10 am and you have TODAY to get the job done. 15 minutes into the job you snap a sapling with the loader bucket and the stem cracks a fuel filter. You’re hemorrhaging diesel fuel faster than you can call the dealership to see if they have a fuel filter cup in stock. If they do and they’re close you’re back in business and the day is saved. If not the day is shot and your tractor is a lawn ornament until parts arrive. If like me you’re new to tractoring and you’re still in the “taming” phase with your property you’re going to break things. Think about who will repair your machine and how you’ll get parts. I have a Kubota tractor, a Toro ZTR, and Stihl small engines. My local dealer is a Stihl, Toro, Badboy, Kubota shop that’s 25 minutes from me and on my way to work. This is a long term relationship you’re investing in. My service manager has walked me through repairs on the phone. Don’t undervalue how important the dealership will be in the future.

Cold call the service departments of local dealers and make something up. Ask when you can get on their schedule, or how long it will take to get parts. My local Massey dealer also services Toro and I knew from prior experience that they have a standing 3 week wait in the summer for service (lots of commercial customers). They were off the list even though Massey makes a great tractor and they’re the closest dealer to my house. Also, see if there are dealers that can ship you parts. Messick’s can have you Kubota parts overnight if you want to pay for expedited shipping.

I have a B2710 HST. I got it used with low hours for a good price. It’s very nimble and can get into tight spaces. However, the added weight of an L would be very nice at times and if I ever trade up, I’ll probably go one size larger. I knew that when I bought the B so my implements are large enough to run on a bigger machine. First thing I did was have the tires loaded with beet juice while she was getting serviced and repaired.

If you have a place to store a larger/heavier machine and the coin to go bigger, do it. You’ll find that as you “tame” your property, everything will eventually be sized for your equipment.

Also, get an idea of what equipment costs to rent or have a pro do it for you. A 40 HP Deere is about $120 a day here. If I need bigger, it’s easy to rent. The excavator that worked my place costs about $100 an hour for dozer work and he can get more done in that hour than I can do in a weekend.

Enjoy the hunt!
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload...
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Just back from the Kioti dealer - think we found the dealer. And the tractor - more later....
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #77  
GirlWhoWantsTractor,

Very accurate for the most part.

This needs clarification:
"AGCO (U.S.-owned company but based in Canada) makes Massey Ferguson with parts sourced from various countries."

AGCO has its global headquarters in Duluth, Georgia, USA, a suburb of Atlanta.

Canada makes up a very significant portion of AGCO's North American business and AGCO has facilities in Canada such as parts distribution centers. But AGCO has always been a U.S.-based company.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #78  
GirlWhoWantsTractor,

Very accurate for the most part.

This needs clarification:
"AGCO (U.S.-owned company but based in Canada) makes Massey Ferguson with parts sourced from various countries."

AGCO has its global headquarters in Duluth, Georgia, USA, a suburb of Atlanta.

Canada makes up a very significant portion of AGCO's North American business and AGCO has facilities in Canada such as parts distribution centers. But AGCO has always been a U.S.-based company.

Thank you for the correction.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #79  
Can't say what they do at the US assembly plants, presumably they assemble something.:) AFAIK there are no Mahindra assembly plants in Japan. You're saying Mitsubishi actually builds the entire tractor in Japan for Mahindra? I suppose it's possible, since Mahindra owns 33% of Mitsubishi. But I believe only the engine is Mitsubishi. With these "frankenstein" tractors we own, it's hard to tell for sure!

Mahindra is opening the first new automotive plant in Detroit in 25 years, for off-road vehicles. They are also planning a full-scale tractor manufacturing plant in Texas. Like I said, I don't really care as long as it's a good tractor.

I live near a Mahindra assembly plant in Bloomsburg Pennsylvania run by a family that owned and operated two dealerships (Kubota & Mahindra) and operated a tractor parts store (all brands), all successfully. They were approached by Mahindra to provide the regional assembly so they sold the retail operations and focused on assembly. The assembly plant is located in the old Walmart building on the edge of the town. The raw tractors are crated and shipped in from manufacturing plants around the world, they are crated so they stack nice and neat so as to fit into shipping containers efficiently. Once at the final assembly plant all the stuff that didn't fit in the shipping crate are married to the raw tractor making it whole. The most obvious being the wheels, tires, cab, FEL, backhoe, hydraulics, steering wheel, 3pt hitch arms etc.. I believe the tractors are shipped with "shipping fluids" which are drained and replaced with spec operating fluids and the battery is added. Lastly decals are added identifying the make and model. I don't know what percentage of the total cost of production the final assembly is but many of the components are sourced in North America.
 
   / Help me buy a compact tractor - information overload... #80  
I live near a Mahindra assembly plant in Bloomsburg Pennsylvania run by a family that owned and operated two dealerships (Kubota & Mahindra) and operated a tractor parts store (all brands), all successfully. They were approached by Mahindra to provide the regional assembly so they sold the retail operations and focused on assembly. The assembly plant is located in the old Walmart building on the edge of the town. The raw tractors are crated and shipped in from manufacturing plants around the world, they are crated so they stack nice and neat so as to fit into shipping containers efficiently. Once at the final assembly plant all the stuff that didn't fit in the shipping crate are married to the raw tractor making it whole. The most obvious being the wheels, tires, cab, FEL, backhoe, hydraulics, steering wheel, 3pt hitch arms etc.. I believe the tractors are shipped with "shipping fluids" which are drained and replaced with spec operating fluids and the battery is added. Lastly decals are added identifying the make and model. I don't know what percentage of the total cost of production the final assembly is but many of the components are sourced in North America.

Actually I checked my decals again and the FEL is from Korea but the tractor was "Proudly Assembled in Pennsylvania," so probably the same factory! All Mitsu engines are now apparently made in Japan. They used to have a factory (perhaps just for automobile engines) in Normal, IL, but sadly it closed down in 2015.

I think we've gotten pretty OT for the original poster. :)
 

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