Mowing 15 BATWING DIGGING TRENCHES IN PASTURE: Hydraulics?

[Diesel44]

The stops are not used on the wing cylinders they are only used on the main lift cylinder.

Love this answer. Was wondering why no stops on wings. It is now about 1 inch total difference between front and back.

 

[Diesel44]

When you lower the wings, do you push your remote all the way forward and feel it lock in a detent? You basically want the fluid to flow in and out of the cylinder as the terrain changes. It should fold up a little or down a bit to follow the ground. Call the dealer and ask them if it has a float valve for the wings. If not, you need one

Brett

Thanks. Dealer has been out twice to fix. Originally there was only one vertical pin holding the batwing drivetrain to tractor. Second horizontal bolt was not even there, which I was told was normal...really?!?! So the nose was down a few inches and of course it was digging in. Once I added the second horizontal bolt at 13 hours, it was in a better position. They also delivered it with the 3 point not functioning. I gave them a second chance to fix and they still placed no horizontal (I did after they left.) bolt, the 3 point still dysfunctional and one batwing will not lower. On the day of delivery the hydraulic lines for the batwings were in the wrong female acceptors and were switched by delivery guy. There is more, but all this to say, I just spent $60k and cannot even use the assembly and the dealer is no help. I will add photos.

 

[davidcbaker]

I have the same model batwing (towing with an M5-111). I think your issue might be one or both of these. First, the turnbuckles aren't adjusted properly. There's one on each side, and they control the height of the wings. Second, your front hitch is all screwed up. Compare how yours is hanging to mine, with that rear pin.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Good thing, the dealer send out the "EXPERTS". I hate when the guys who don't have a clue show up!

So, how does the mower follow terrain? I had a 16' finishing mower but a different animal as each deck floated from one another with it's own wheels.

 

[Tx Jim]

Love this answer. Was wondering why no stops on wings. It is now about 1 inch total difference between front and back.

IMHO adding cylinder stops to wheel frame cylinder will not solve wings drooping & wings causing trenches

 

[rustyshakelford]

I agree the hitch is jacked. There’s no way that’s acceptable.

Brett

 

[1010]

When you say the wing won't lower? Won't lower from the folded up position or the buckle on the rear won't adjust the wing lower?

A twisted shaft will cause the wing to stay hung up, in the folded up position. That entire drive line will have to be removed with the wing supported with a chain and jack stands.

 

[1010]

If you're draw bar doesn't have holes for a top you could have it fabricated for one. This would make the draw bar forked so the pin has more up and down support. It would straighten up the LP hitch.

 

[searcyfarms]

diesel, the biggest problem I see is the front is down too low, the hydraulics should suspend the front of the hitch as well as the back of the mower, if you are going into the far forward/float position on your lift/lower lever, you are going to have the droop in your hitch where it attaches to the tractor - now in bakers picture, if you turn the adjustment where more bolt is showing/lengthen the throw of the adjustment bolt, your wheels will touch the ground sooner thus raising the rear of the mower higher, you should be able to adjust that as needed - you also should be able to lower your mower wings to a specific height and even run with them up in the air if needed to mow valleys so as you drop the mower wings down, there should be no reason they will be dragging all the time, my skis on the wings only hit the ground when I go over a rise/dip in the ground, they are not meant to RIDE on the ground all the time, if your hydraulics are not holding the wings up and your hitch at the tractor is not raised up where the tongue is level, something is horribly wrong or you are either dropping it down too far manually or hitting the float position on your hydraulic lever.

adjust/lower, adjust raise, suspend wings, - most tractors use a split line/T for the two wing cylinders - one side will lower before the other so just keep holding the lever, it will catch up - like I said play with it, you will get the hang of it, these smaller tractors don't have the high volume pumps in them like the LARGE 100+ HP tractors, my 150hp tractor will flap the wings up on a bat wing like a bird but my smaller tractors are one at a time..........be patient and play with it, oh and raise it up/down, oh yea did I mention, practice going up/down until you get the hang of what it looks like to get the hitch level and wings suspended? ;-) very simple mechanics here not rocket science - and yes those cylinder stops might help on the wings IF you don't want to manage them by hand - let us know how it goes

 

[1010]

Cylinder stops on the wings would make it more ridged and defeat the purpose of the bat wing. Unless you didn't want the wings to fold up all the way up for some reason. Countrybumpkin is exactly right. The single cylinder that raises and lowers the entire cutter is where the stops allow the operator to return (lower) the cutter back to the same height each time. They take the guess work out.

I use one single HYD hose line with a tee going to both wings also. and one singe line to the up and down cylinder.