Buying Advice 40 hp-- which brand?

[Geotech]

Interesting. So basically anywhere in the world including "unknown. They're just like autos. Parts from all over the word, various degrees of assembly in different places and a final assembly point.

 

[jeff9366]

"Allis Chalmers - Founded 1901 - didn't make it."

AC and several other brands declined to license Harry Ferguson's Three Point Hitch patents. The tractor brands that did license the Three Point Hitch from Ferguson, commencing with Ford in 1939, ran off with the tractor and implement business.

Ferguson's patents expired over several years with 1955 often used as simplified patent expiration year. Every new "traditional" tractor today, wherever manufactured, has Ferguson's standardized Three Point Hitch. No one has been able to improve Ferguson's basic design, though it has been enlarged from Category I originally, through Category II, III, IV and V today.



The next big test will be implementing battery power in compact tractors to avoid predictable Tier V emission controls on all tractors, not just those with over 19 kW engine power output.

 

[rngrrymd]

Actually I am not sure where Deere assembles their small tractors. They have yanmar engines, so they are not "made in the US". Not that it bothers me.

Geotech, please refer to post #66 on the following thread. Please note the John Deere Factory Code Guide link at the bottom of the post.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...ons/399556-help-me-buy-compact-tractor-7.html

If you search through tractorhouse.com listings you will notice the John Deere compact 1-4 series all have serial #'s that start with "1LV". All tractors that start with serial #1LV are "assembled" in Augusta, GA. All the John Deere haters on this board like to get all wiffly when that info is presented to them and refuse to acknowledge it. They'll say they don't know where John Deere tractors are built. Many of the components being assembled in Augusta are made overseas. The most obvious non-US component is the Yanmar engines. In that same post #66 I reference a serial sticker that another posted which turns out to be a serial # sticker for a front-end loader. After a little research it became apparent that John Deere has a facility in Mexico that has been making loaders for them for years. Deere can't say the tractors are all made in the USA but they are definitely assembled at the Augusta, GA facility which is a huge facility.

I think Deere makes good tractors. For mowing intensive applications and ease of loader and backhoe removal they have all the competition beat with their ingenuity but if you are looking for raw specs on loader and backhoe capability then they tend to sink down in the pack and other brands rise to the top. hth.

 

[rngrrymd]

Let TractorData.com satisfy your curiosity:

TractorData.com - John Deere tractors sorted by factory

The guy at Tractordata.com needs to update his info. He's behind the times. All "1LV" serial # compacts from Deere are assembled at Augusta, GA.

OMCXT10970 <-- John Deere Factory Code Guide

 

[GFirkus]

Good conversations going on here. The reason I want a ?0 hp is it seemed like some are on the low end of the larger frame size. I don稚 care to get to large as my property is all wooded. Maybe 2000lb is a little over kill for needed loader capacity. I figured that would cover anything I would ever need to lift around the house. Why do some of the 田heaper tractors have quite a bit higher ratings than the 渡ame brand ?

 

[majorwager]

Rngrry.

It is only fair to look at the other posts under the thread you reference. Also one reference source isn't necessarily more credible than another. Tractor Data disputes that deere identifies each model manufacturing plant. In the end, it really doe NOT matter where the tractor is assembled ,because the components are of worldwide production. Girl Who Wants a Tractors has contributed extensive investigative research into this topic and her findings are as valid as others.

I find it rather ludicrous that deere would produce the 3 series w/ an aluminum rear axle and reservoir housing so it will not even support a BH Attachment. And that flaw has no relevance to where the tractor is fitted w/ shoes.

 

[ericm979]

Different companies measure the loader capacity differently. Often it's "at the pins" where the bucket pins on. That's unrealistic for most loads. A bucket of dirt will have it's center of gravity a ways farther out than the pins. A pallet on forks will be even further out. The farther away from the pins the load is, the less weight can be lifted. Some companies publish a capacity measured at some distance out from the pins.

 

[rngrrymd]

Major,

Also one reference source isn't necessarily more credible than another

I know what you're trying to say but that link for the factory codes comes straight from Deere.com website. I think you'd agree with me that you can't get better credibility than that.

I am cooking up some hard info on loader statistics for subcompacts right now that could be interesting once I get all the data together. I obtained info on Deere, Mahindra and New Holland on a little road trip this last weekend. Still have to get Yanmar, Massey, Kubota. Heck, maybe a few weeks from now I'll get info on LS and RK with a trip to SC I'll be making. Yes, I'm bored. And curious.

Woods has been delaying the backhoe because they don't have 24" buckets. Dealer straightened them out on that today so at least they ship the backhoe less bucket and he can have the techs put it together. Heck, I might even get this sucker before Christmas. Have to resort to looking at pics of Screaming400's unit lol.

 

[jeff9366]

1) Maybe 2000lb is a little over kill for needed loader capacity. I figured that would cover anything I would ever need to lift around the house.

2) Why do some of the çheaper tractors have higher FEL lift ratings than the name brand ?

1) If you move logs with pallet forks mounted on the Three Point Hitch, rather than the FEL, you will not need as heavy nor as expensive tractor. Kubota L2501 Three Point Hitch lift capacity 1,918 pounds at lift points, 1,389 pounds 24" behind lift points. (Including weight of pallet forks.) Carrying a ton is much safer with cargo weight on the heavy, non-pivoting rear axle and large rear tires.

2) VIDEO: Let's Talk: How Loader specifications can be manipulated. - YouTube

 

[jeff9366]

The guy at Tractordata.com needs to update his info. He's behind the times. All "1LV" serial # compacts from Deere are assembled at Augusta, GA.

OMCXT10970 <-- John Deere Factory Code Guide

I e-mailed this page to peter@tractordata.com