Another SCUT w/ Backhoe Thread

[ZTMAN]

Legally in PA, if you purchase something out of state and do not pay sales tax, you have to report it to the state and pay PA use tax.

 

[atsah]

I just researched that a bit, looks like there are five states that don't have "use" tax, Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire and Oregon, It's difficult for any state to impose a use tax for anything that is not registered. The buyer is supposed to report the out of state sale to the state they live in.

 

[kelchm]

Went to look at a John Deere 1025R today... Now I'm really going completely nuts trying to make a decision. Valley Ag has some pretty aggressive pricing on the 1025R TLB right now ($19,000). Add $2300 for a 60" MMM and the total is $21300 + tax. That's within $300 of the best price I've found for the BX23s w/ 60" deck. In general think the 1025R is a more capable machine than the BX23s.

I also took a look at my 'local' LS dealer last week (about an 1:15 away) to see an MT125 in person. Much nicer than I expected and seems like a really solid machine. Unfortunately his pricing wasn't quite as good ($17,950) as what I was hoping and 0% financing isn't available. That means that I'm really paying more like $20,000 with interest. I then still have the problem of no local dealer and being completely SOL if the existing dealer goes away or changes brands.

At this point I'm strongly leaning towards the 1025R. It's not perfect, but it seems like the best compromise. In practice it ends up being about $1300 more than the MT125, which seems fair given the JD branding. Ideally I'd really like a JD 2025R or Yanmar 424, but the pricing is above what I've set my budget at.

 

[atsah]

IMO the 1025R is a heck of a machine.. I had a 2305 TLB a few years back and it was a great machine, wish I didn't sell it..

 

[Diggin It]

Went to look at a John Deere 1025R today... Now I'm really going completely nuts trying to make a decision. Valley Ag has some pretty aggressive pricing on the 1025R TLB right now ($19,000). Add $2300 for a 60" MMM and the total is $21300 + tax. That's within $300 of the best price I've found for the BX23s w/ 60" deck. In general think the 1025R is a more capable machine than the BX23s.

I also took a look at my 'local' LS dealer last week (about an 1:15 away) to see an MT125 in person. Much nicer than I expected and seems like a really solid machine. Unfortunately his pricing wasn't quite as good ($17,950) as what I was hoping and 0% financing isn't available. That means that I'm really paying more like $20,000 with interest. I then still have the problem of no local dealer and being completely SOL if the existing dealer goes away or changes brands.

At this point I'm strongly leaning towards the 1025R. It's not perfect, but it seems like the best compromise. In practice it ends up being about $1300 more than the MT125, which seems fair given the JD branding. Ideally I'd really like a JD 2025R or Yanmar 424, but the pricing is above what I've set my budget at.

That's pretty much where I am at the moment and I really don't want Green Fever. But if they can provide the 0% financing where no one else can, I may not have a choice.

 

[LouNY]

One thing that you may want to consider, you mentioned a steep driveway on wet snow or packed snow chains will be needed.
Make sure your choice has clearance for them.

 

[atsah]

Good point, my GC1705 wears v-bar ice chains on all four, the 1025R will not have any issue with a set of chains..

 

[ZTMAN]

Went to look at a John Deere 1025R today... Now I'm really going completely nuts trying to make a decision. Valley Ag has some pretty aggressive pricing on the 1025R TLB right now ($19,000). Add $2300 for a 60" MMM and the total is $21300 + tax. That's within $300 of the best price I've found for the BX23s w/ 60" deck. In general think the 1025R is a more capable machine than the BX23s.

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Is the price they quoted the cash price, or the finance price. I know when I priced one from Valley Ag a few weeks back, the finance price was about $1,000 higher.

The price I got on the 1025r was $3,000 more than the BX2380, that is why we did not consider going with the JD.

I have bought equipment from Valley Ag in the past, and I will say they are top notched. The just could not get in the same ball park as Kubota.

 

[bigcut]

I'm following your progress with great interest....Just curious what your issue was with "Kioti" ?

Also, if you consider an out of state purchase, there are some local dealers or either won't service your tractor, or they put you at the bottom of their list, because you did not purchase from them.

I was also surprised by your findings regarding JD and their pricing.
Good luck,
John

 

[shooterdon]

For most users, the BH is the most useless implement/$ imaginable. In the last 5 years I have spent less than $500 getting my work that needed a BH done by a local contractor. And if you have a neighbor with a BH, you can barter for a lot less.

Think hard about the investment in a BH vs getting a better tractor or other more useful implements.

BTW, I have seen small JD痴 with BH that have hardly been used. Something that is neat to have, may not always be a smart investment.