3pt question on my 1705

   / 3pt question on my 1705 #11  
My bad. I thought it worked both directions with that. I thought you can keep the mower deck up, but use the 3pt. Or maybe that was on a Kubota? I looked at a few before buying my mom the 1705. I'm new to the 1705, and I don't have a mower deck.

You can do as you say, lock the mower up and still use the 3pt. The OP Wants to do the opposite, keep the 3pt hitch up, and have the mower deck go down. I think JD is the only manufacturer to offer independent lift (as an option) on the 1000 series.

If you are new(ish) to tractors, it may not be obvious what is doing the lifting. The 3pt arms that you connects do don't lift by themselves. They are lifted, via a connecting rod, by the upper lift arms, the mower deck lift is directly connected to the same lifting arms. So somewhere in there, you need to break that hard connection. I'm assuming the JD option is a separate hydraulic lift arm for the mower.
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705
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#12  
thanks fellas for the replies. I will be putting the unit together this weekend with some help from the neighbor. Should be fairly easy.
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705 #13  
You can do as you say, lock the mower up and still use the 3pt. The OP Wants to do the opposite, keep the 3pt hitch up, and have the mower deck go down. I think JD is the only manufacturer to offer independent lift (as an option) on the 1000 series.

If you are new(ish) to tractors, it may not be obvious what is doing the lifting. The 3pt arms that you connects do don't lift by themselves. They are lifted, via a connecting rod, by the upper lift arms, the mower deck lift is directly connected to the same lifting arms. So somewhere in there, you need to break that hard connection. I'm assuming the JD option is a separate hydraulic lift arm for the mower.

I'm not new to tractors, just new to sub compacts (a tractor is a tractor, right? :confused3: ). So if you disconnect the lower lift arms from the upper lift arms you can then tie up the lower lift arms and have the mower deck move freely. On my other tractors it's a simple pin that holds the lower lift arms to the connecting rods.
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705 #14  
Remove the draft arms, hook the vac to the drawbar and your done..
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705 #15  
Remove the draft arms, hook the vac to the drawbar and your done..

Yes, Assuming its made, or easily adapted to connect to the draw bar, it really is as simple as this.
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705 #16  
You can do as you say, lock the mower up and still use the 3pt. The OP Wants to do the opposite, keep the 3pt hitch up, and have the mower deck go down. I think JD is the only manufacturer to offer independent lift (as an option) on the 1000 series.

If you are new(ish) to tractors, it may not be obvious what is doing the lifting. The 3pt arms that you connects do don't lift by themselves. They are lifted, via a connecting rod, by the upper lift arms, the mower deck lift is directly connected to the same lifting arms. So somewhere in there, you need to break that hard connection. I'm assuming the JD option is a separate hydraulic lift arm for the mower.

The above is correct....

Pull 3PH into uppermost position, lock arms there with stay chains or some such thing and then pull the pins for the upper arms to link bars to 3PH arms to release the locked up 3PH from the upper operating arms that way you regain use of raise/lower feature for mower attachment (via upper arms) ... 3PH arms are up and out of way... Attach vac to chassis draw bar as mentioned above...

Dale
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705
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#17  
Yes it looks very simple to do. I appreciate all the feedback.
 
   / 3pt question on my 1705 #18  
My older 2310 is the same, and I do what Dale suggests. Took me a while to figure that out when I first got it!

I slip a piece of EMT tubing into the BH attach holes and use that to keep the 3PH arms up & out of the way for MMM use. This will allow the "fixed" 3PH arms (on the back/top of the transmission) to go up & down without hitting anything; they will raise & lower every time the MMM is raised or lowered. Not sure what you could do, however, if you don't have a BH...

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   / 3pt question on my 1705
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#19  
Basically the same concept I however will be using my 3pt, it will just be unattached to the hydraulics which everyone here has pointed out where to make the separation so that i can keep functionality of my mmm and keep the 3pt stationary.


My older 2310 is the same, and I do what Dale suggests. Took me a while to figure that out when I first got it!

I slip a piece of EMT tubing into the BH attach holes and use that to keep the 3PH arms up & out of the way for MMM use. This will allow the "fixed" 3PH arms (on the back/top of the transmission) to go up & down without hitting anything; they will raise & lower every time the MMM is raised or lowered. Not sure what you could do, however, if you don't have a BH...

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   / 3pt question on my 1705 #20  
Basically the same concept I however will be using my 3pt, it will just be unattached to the hydraulics which everyone here has pointed out where to make the separation so that i can keep functionality of my mmm and keep the 3pt stationary.

If you disconnect the connecting (lifting) rods you are going to have to use stay chains (check chains - limit chains) to maintain whatever height you want... When you disconnect from hydraulics 3PH arms will drop to lowest possible position (most likely on ground).... Keep in mind the hydraulics have absolute control of height of draw bar/3PH arms, with no hydraulics they will go all the way down....

You are back to basically to this concept to support 3PH arms (plus draw bar)...

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(graphic lifted off Google Images)

Recommended by some you use hard link (stay-bars) in lieu of check chains....

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Other thing to think of, will drawbar on 3PH arms interfere with PTO shaft, this will height critical....

Dale
 
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