Dangerous times even in small town

[ultrarunner]

I hate to say it, but being treated as if I might be a criminal, until things get sorted out, WOULD bother me immensely! You always see movies and TV shows where the cops show up and automatically know who is friend and foe!

It does and has cost the city dearly in massive payouts... innocent person... perhaps deaf... not doing what office thinks he/she should be doing...

The reaching to pull up pants or for cell or for I.D... has been enough to be shot dead...

The bar massacre in California where the first responding deputy was shot and killed was friendly fire from CHP officer...

 

[Sigarms]

I've read enough of your rhetoric about LEOs to know you would not do those things. I base this on the first paragraph of your statement above. You would be very difficult for LEO to handle because you know what's best.

You know Jack ***** to, huh?

It's not that I know what's best, it's that I know reality AND my rights. Those two items are a dangerous combination, and if interacting with law enforcement, if armed, will get you killed more often than naught.

Take a cop with a badge and adrenaline running, when shots are fired, it will always be protrayed in the LEO's best defense per self defense per the LEO's view point. The reality is a badge is a 80% sure ticket for a "Get out of jail" card. Just look at the off duty LEO who went to the wrong address and shot the homeowner because she thought she was being attacked in her own home. She got busted, but later on.

 

[prof fate]

Do you practice with your weapon of choice? How and when/how often?

I shoot in a weekly pistol league (for accuracy) and they shoot rain or shine. Standing, prone, sitting and kneeling.
I shoot IDPA when I can fit it in my schedule - moving, reloading, barricades, no-shoot targets, shooting from in a car and more.
I shoot SASS/Cowboy Action - 4 guns, including draw/holster and reload on the clock. Year round. 24 rounds from 4 guns on a dozen different targets in under 25 seconds takes practice. I've seen it done in under 15 seconds.
I also rifle shoot in a few different but similar sports, out to 200 yards, simulated 300 and 600 (few ranges here go beyond too - too many hills).

What I've not much of is night shooting, but what I have done is VERY different from day shooting.

Rain and cold can change things. Snow can too. Shooting from inside is very different as well.

I know too many that carry and other than a few 5 yard mags a year, if that, they don't shoot their guns. Don't train. Don't really have a clue. God help us all if they pull their weapons and start popping off rounds.

Just come and watch newbies at any of the sports above and you'll see some really bad shooters, bad habits, dangerous habits. And these are people trying to get better.

 

[Sigarms]

Do you practice with your weapon of choice? How and when/how often?

Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.

Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.

Just practice right and slow...

 

[ovrszd]

You know Jack ***** to, huh?

It's not that I know what's best, it's that I know reality AND my rights. Those two items are a dangerous combination, and if interacting with law enforcement, if armed, will get you killed more often than naught.

Take a cop with a badge and adrenaline running, when shots are fired, it will always be protrayed in the LEO's best defense per self defense per the LEO's view point. The reality is a badge is a 80% sure ticket for a "Get out of jail" card. Just look at the off duty LEO who went to the wrong address and shot the homeowner because she thought she was being attacked in her own home. She got busted, but later on.

Don't know any Jack. But I know being in a gun fight. Do you?

Slow gets you killed every time.

 

[prof fate]

Practice is practice - competition is pressure - folks watching, the clock, the weather, etc.

Most people practice when it's nice out, or inside a range. try shooting in a downpour, 95F and humid, when you're tired after a day of work, etc. How do you handle a gun/ammo malfuntion, under pressure (the clock/competition)?

Another question, and only YOU can answer it - if there is a sudden emergency do you know how you'll react? Have you had such a situation? A fire, accident (you or someone else), etc? How did you respond and react?

Ever been down range when folks are shooting? It's a very unsettling experience when it's safe and controlled...i can only imagine what it'd be like to actually BE the target instead of the target puller/scorer behind a nice hill and concrete wall.

SOme folks freeze, run, go all stupid, others keep their heads and act

 

[Jstpssng]

It's easy to sit here and type what we would do in certain situations, and I have read some really good ways to handle the aftermath. In reality though none of us really know how we will act/react during and after a hostile situation. I hope that I never have to find out.

 

[Jchonline]

Do you practice with your weapon of choice? How and when/how often?

I shoot in a weekly pistol league (for accuracy) and they shoot rain or shine. Standing, prone, sitting and kneeling.
I shoot IDPA when I can fit it in my schedule - moving, reloading, barricades, no-shoot targets, shooting from in a car and more.
I shoot SASS/Cowboy Action - 4 guns, including draw/holster and reload on the clock. Year round. 24 rounds from 4 guns on a dozen different targets in under 25 seconds takes practice. I've seen it done in under 15 seconds.
I also rifle shoot in a few different but similar sports, out to 200 yards, simulated 300 and 600 (few ranges here go beyond too - too many hills).

What I've not much of is night shooting, but what I have done is VERY different from day shooting.

Rain and cold can change things. Snow can too. Shooting from inside is very different as well.

I know too many that carry and other than a few 5 yard mags a year, if that, they don't shoot their guns. Don't train. Don't really have a clue. God help us all if they pull their weapons and start popping off rounds.

Just come and watch newbies at any of the sports above and you'll see some really bad shooters, bad habits, dangerous habits. And these are people trying to get better.

I definitely agree with the newbies, but we all start somewhere. As long as folks have the aptitude and motivation to learn they are headed in the right direction. I have shot USPSA for years. About 7 years ago I started taking tactical classes (ie teaching you how to fight with a gun).

Competition shooting is not tactical shooting. If you get a chance, take some force on force training as well.

I do applaud you for shooting more than most, but I urge you to mix in some tactical classes and training. If you carry everyday, it is a big help.

 

[Jchonline]

It's easy to sit here and type what we would do in certain situations, and I have read some really good ways to handle the aftermath. In reality though none of us really know how we will act/react during and after a hostile situation. I hope that I never have to find out.

Yes you can actually do this, at least you can get pretty close. It is called Force on Force training. A real eye opener for me.

 

[Jstpssng]

Yes you can actually do this, at least you can get pretty close. It is called Force on Force training. A real eye opener for me.

That's good to know. [Louisiana Handgun and Rifle Training Course | Bearco Training
I haven't had time to really peruse the curriculum.