Dangerous times even in small town

[MH8675309]

Dont turn on a light in the house - it makes you visible. Turn on an exterior light so that they are visible and have know idea where you might be watching them from. Just a thought.

 

[Sigarms]

My only point with the 22LR article is getting into a debate with what bullet works best for "home defense" is a lot like debating what caliber works best. Something is better than nothing, and I don't care what the caliber or bullet, I don't want to be shot at with anything.

 

[JasperFrank]

Had a CC and carried for about 10 years. I just got tired of the responsibility. And always thinking about the threat level. There were a few times I took the gun to work - against the rules-, because a recently fired, mentally unstable employee made threats. And that was the only time in the ten years that that CC made sense for me. Don't carry any more, and it is a lifted weight off my shoulders. I have an ex-cop friend that told me the happiest days of his life were when he didn't carry. In the line of duty, he had been shoot twice as a Baltimore, MD cop. Once with a 9 mm and once with a 22. The 22 was far worst to him as it bounced around. Your whole view of the world changes when you walk around with a gun. And you are doing that for a situation that is so rare as to be non-existent. In an active shooter situation, you just don't have time, every thing happens in seconds, yet you have to be "On" all the time to be effective as a defense with a CC. The drawbacks overcame the advantages. For instance I walked in to a bank one time and I had a handgun in my briefcase. I immediately walked back out, with the understanding that I had just unwittingly, committed a felony. And there are banks everywhere now, in shopping centers and such. So you never know if and when you are walking into a zone that could have legal repercussions for a CC holder. And as someone that did carry, I had mannerisms, body talk. And I can now see it in other people that are CC. They are "ON."
If you carry you will begin to see this. All my guns are now locked up in a safe, aside from a military grade shot gun for home defense. Being out in public,.. I'm not worried about.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^^
That's an interesting outlook. I got jumped all over in this thread for lamenting that I have to take the keys out of my truck because not everybody is honest; yet some of those same people state that they "keep a gun in every room" because they are scared of dealing with intruders.
Just for the record, the closest that I have ever been to losing my truck was when a New York State Forest Ranger didn't like where I was parked and left a note threatening to tow me; I was 20 miles from the nearest house on private land working for the landowner, but it was also part of the Adirondack Park so apparently he could have legally taken my truck leaving me stranded with no water or a way to get out of there.
They used to hang horse thieves, now they make them NY State Forest Rangers

 

[two_bit_score]

Had a CC and carried for about 10 years. I just got tired of the responsibility. And always thinking about the threat level. There were a few times I took the gun to work - against the rules-, because a recently fired, mentally unstable employee made threats. And that was the only time in the ten years that that CC made sense for me. Don't carry any more, and it is a lifted weight off my shoulders. I have an ex-cop friend that told me the happiest days of his life were when he didn't carry. In the line of duty, he had been shoot twice as a Baltimore, MD cop. Once with a 9 mm and once with a 22. The 22 was far worst to him as it bounced around. Your whole view of the world changes when you walk around with a gun. And you are doing that for a situation that is so rare as to be non-existent. In an active shooter situation, you just don't have time, every thing happens in seconds, yet you have to be "On" all the time to be effective as a defense with a CC. The drawbacks overcame the advantages. For instance I walked in to a bank one time and I had a handgun in my briefcase. I immediately walked back out, with the understanding that I had just unwittingly, committed a felony. And there are banks everywhere now, in shopping centers and such. So you never know if and when you are walking into a zone that could have legal repercussions for a CC holder. And as someone that did carry, I had mannerisms, body talk. And I can now see it in other people that are CC. They are "ON."
If you carry you will begin to see this. All my guns are now locked up in a safe, aside from a military grade shot gun for home defense. Being out in public,.. I'm not worried about.

Not everyone should carry. I don’t know anyone who has to carry. I do know a lot who carry and are comfortable doing so.

 

[bcp]

For instance I walked in to a bank one time and I had a handgun in my briefcase. I immediately walked back out, with the understanding that I had just unwittingly, committed a felony.

Never heard of that in any state I've lived in.

Bruce

 

[RSKY]

Somebody posted this link to handgun calibers a few months ago. It also has links to the Ellifritz's web site. Very good info.

The Best Handgun Caliber - A Real World Study - YouTube

I only carry going to the farms or to church. The latter because we were asked to form a security group. Due to YouTube videos I have watched (I know, don't make fun of me) I now have a summer ammo and a winter ammo. The summer is Speer Gold Dot in all three pistols with the snubby using Short Barrel. For winter I use the Hornady Critical Defense because it is supposed to expand after going thru several layers of cloth. Supposedly the insert forces expansion. I know this is asinine but it gave me an excuse to shop for and order a different type ammo.

RSKY

 

[Ken45101]

For instance I walked in to a bank one time and I had a handgun in my briefcase. I immediately walked back out, with the understanding that I had just unwittingly, committed a felony.

Not generally illegal to carry into a bank. Of course it varies state to state, but I know for sure it is legal in Ohio and Kentucky unless to bank is posted (most do not).

 

[2LaneCruzer]

yep, did several cows and pigs with 22 LR. The criminals commonly use them for executions.

In the showers after my swimming class in college, noticed one guy with a big scar on his back. I asked him what happened; he said he was accidentally shot in the stomach with a .22 short and it passed completely through his body. They had to remove one of his kidneys.

 

[mark02tj]

I will never forget an article in the 80s. It claimed that more people get shot with a .22 than any other round AND most die within 48 hours. That little round goes wizzing around inside you willy nilly doing all kinds of damage!

That's what happened to President Reagan when he was shot with a .22.

Not generally illegal to carry into a bank. Of course it varies state to state, but I know for sure it is legal in Ohio and Kentucky unless to bank is posted (most do not).

My Credit Union posts as a gun free zone, my bank does not. One bank that I no longer do business with didn't post (IIRC) but did have a notice on the doors asking you to remove your hat and sunglasses when you came in.

What irks me is the "can't carry on Federal Property rule." I can understand not being able to carry on a military base, Federal Building, etc., but to make it a felony to have your weapon in the vehicle if you drive on to Post Office property to drop a letter in the drive-by mailbox is ridiculous. I wonder how many times a day that law gets broken? (I don't carry any more, so I'm not breaking that law.)