First Post, First day owning a tractor, and I already need HELP! Kinda Long!

[LouNY]

If this jump from the original post were to get spun over to friendly politics I would join in as I have been on every side of this from worker to management to small businessman. I am not going to get into on this thread.
Lou

 

[D2Cat]

^^^^THIS is so true.Love the union bashing when the economy takes a chit it,s the unions fault.Last time I checked the unions were not setting in GM,Ford,Chryslers board rooms making the BIG $$ decisions.Just to PI$$ you off more party hound I am retired UNION electric lineman with a pension,401k,health care benefits(which I pay)and social security check every month.AHHHH life is good...**** all this with a dumb ***** high school degree and 4 years of electric IBEW trade school and NO student debt..

So are you saying all the benefits you listed are because of your union?

I know guys who work a local auto mfg. plant, and the young guys will often say they can't stand the work, but can't get a job that pays as much as they earn there...so they just stay there. And some of them only got a job there because a family member had been there.

 

[coobie]

So are you saying all the benefits you listed are because of your union?

I know guys who work a local auto mfg. plant, and the young guys will often say they can't stand the work, but can't get a job that pays as much as they earn there...so they just stay there. And some of them only got a job there because a family member had been there.

Never stated that but read into it however you like.

 

[buickanddeere]

If we didn't have a bunch of union people with the mindset that they are entitled to absurdly high pay ($50/hr plus benefits may be an underexxageration in many cases) to perform drive-through food service level of skilled labor, then maybe we in the US would still manufacture most of our own goods instead of forcing US companies to outsource overseas.
I perform work that is usually performed by union workers in most areas of the US; IBEW usually. Our company provides better service, a better product, at better prices than our union counterparts just a few miles away all while paying a fair wage.

Fair wages and benefits is less than union rate ?????????

 

[rScotty]

If we didn't have a bunch of union people with the mindset that they are entitled to absurdly high pay ($50/hr plus benefits may be an underexxageration in many cases) to perform drive-through food service level of skilled labor, then maybe we in the US would still manufacture most of our own goods instead of forcing US companies to outsource overseas.
I perform work that is usually performed by union workers in most areas of the US; IBEW usually. Our company provides better service, a better product, at better prices than our union counterparts just a few miles away all while paying a fair wage.

Fair wages and benefits is less than union rate.

Union rates and benefits are certainly union's strong points. That still leaves the service, product, and pricing to be addressed.

 

[grm61]

Fair wages and benefits is less than union rate.

What's fair? poverty?

 

[ch1ch2]

And there's really not a single thing that a tractor can do that a young guy with a shovel and wheelbarrow can't.
rScotty

That has got to be the farthest thing from truth I have hear in a long time. But makes a good sound bit.

 

[Diggin It]

That has got to be the farthest thing from truth I have hear in a long time. But makes a good sound bit.

You know guys with shovels and wheelbarrows did most everything a tractor can do long before tractors were invented, right? Took 'em longer, lots more work, and often many guys, but it was done.

 

[ch1ch2]

You know guys with shovels and wheelbarrows did most everything a tractor can do long before tractors were invented, right? Took 'em longer, lots more work, and often many guys, but it was done.

I got to agree, work got done before there were tractors.

 

[ch1ch2]

I got to agree, work got done before there were tractors.

I do not know if any work got done before horses and mules.