Your thoughts on this framing job

[Diggin It]

The builder is responsible for his construction and weather they pay attention to the forecast or not,

Yes, that's what I said.

 

[s219]

I can't figure out what they were trying to accomplish with that framing. Were they planning to have a bunch of windows on the gable wall? Even if they were, that is a really bad and sloppy way to do it. Nothing makes sense.

Lack of continuous vertical framing is the biggest flaw I see, and it's all over the place. That eave wall would never support the roof load long term without buckling.

The more I look at it, the more I see wrong and the more confused I get. I am thinking that nature did them a favor by blowing that thing down now.

 

[tjkubota93]

I can't figure out what they were trying to accomplish with that framing. Were they planning to have a bunch of windows on the gable wall? Even if they were, that is a really bad and sloppy way to do it. Nothing makes sense.

Lack of continuous vertical framing is the biggest flaw I see, and it's all over the place. That eave wall would never support the roof load long term without buckling.

The more I look at it, the more I see wrong and the more confused I get. I am thinking that nature did them a favor by blowing that thing down now.

Not if they put it back the same as it was! Haha I guess we will see if they learned.

 

[ovrszd]

I can't figure out what they were trying to accomplish with that framing. Were they planning to have a bunch of windows on the gable wall? Even if they were, that is a really bad and sloppy way to do it. Nothing makes sense.

Lack of continuous vertical framing is the biggest flaw I see, and it's all over the place. That eave wall would never support the roof load long term without buckling.

The more I look at it, the more I see wrong and the more confused I get. I am thinking that nature did them a favor by blowing that thing down now.

Yeah, I think Eddie mentioned that favor earlier.

 

[PILOON]

LOL, that contractor had a short bed PU and could not haul longer than 8 ft studs.
He might as well have installed hinges at the 8 ft level.

Also saw that he blocked the spaces between the rafters but then perhaps in your area air circulation in the roof area is not needed but sure is in my climate.
No rafter ties other than toe nailing from what I saw but then I'm not in a tornado zone as perhaps you are not also.

Contractor's wife insisted he be home for dinner no matter what the status of the job.

Hey, Eddy, the door is wide open for you to charge all your travel time over and above your usual rates.
Why not? plumbers and electricians do it.

Actually when I did renovations I was invited to charge my travel when I did work in the city for cottage clients that insisted that I work on their primary city homes.
I also charged (minimal) when I would fetch 'good deals' from suppliers that did not deliver.

 

[sandman2234]

LOL, that contractor had a short bed PU and could not haul longer than 8 ft studs.
He might as well have installed hinges at the 8 ft level.
Contractor's wife insisted he be home for dinner no matter what the status of the job.

I own only long wheelbase pickups, simply for the reason that hauling anything in a truck, should be in a truck not in what is otherwise an open trunk on a Cadillac. I always look at the vehicle a contractor drives when he comes to my house to give me a bid, and if it is a work truck, then it should be a truck, not a glorified grocery getter. The people I hire are will be here to work, not to impress me with their vehicle.
Dinner at times is important, but the job that pays for the dinner might be best paid attention to.
David from jax

 

[ning]

No armchair engineering here. If my builder was splicing vertical structural items I would intervene. A properly built skeleton would have had a much better chance of survival.

IMO they dodged a bullet that it came down when the error was so obvious and the framer's fault.
That needs a redesign... and a different framer.

 

[Diggin It]

Does a two story house have any vertical members that run from the foundation to the gable peak? None I've seen have. The ground floor is built and the second floor is built/stacked on top.

Maybe it's just the pictures, but I see this the same way. Sections stacked on top of each other, partially interlocked, apparently to hold a series of windows resulting is as much window space as possible. Almost a full glass wall. From the pictures we've seen, we don't know what else was going to be added to stiffen the structure and tie it all together.

 

[s219]

Does a two story house have any vertical members that run from the foundation to the gable peak? None I've seen have. The ground floor is built and the second floor is built/stacked on top.

I don't see a floor deck tying the stacked walls together like you'd have with a proper multi-story framing job, and that is the crucial difference. You should never frame a freestanding, load bearing, exterior wall like what was shown in the pictures.

 

[s219]

Maybe it's just the pictures, but I see this the same way. Sections stacked on top of each other, partially interlocked, apparently to hold a series of windows resulting is as much window space as possible. Almost a full glass wall. From the pictures we've seen, we don't know what else was going to be added to stiffen the structure and tie it all together.

Even the "window" framing is all wrong. There should be king and jack studs and headers. I see none, at least not in a proper way. This honestly looks like somebody used up scrap lumber in a haphazard attempt to frame a wall, and ignored all standards and codes.