Big cities are dying. This should shock you.

[Steppenwolfe]

I think that's mostly just talk show blather that no "leaders" are proposing. The exception may be ICE. If we succeed in repealing the Patriot Act, ICE would be history. The Patriot Act is the glaring example of the government taking the power to subjugate the people. They used the shock of 9/11 to pass a law that would have been unthinkable just 20 years ago. It's time to turn the borders back over the the INS and quit conducting quasi-military operations against US citizens.

:thumbsup: No Patriot would ever support that Act. We were hoodwinked... and it wasn't the libs, either.

 

[Industrial Toys]

The really funny thing is. There seems to be some RULE at play that "THEY" whoever that may be, will always tell the public, EXACTLY, what they are going to do.

How long before 911 did BUSH Sr. speak about that, whatever, "event" that would galvanize public opinion, like a Pearl Harbour?

 

[Larry Caldwell]

On the original subject of city clean-ups, Albuquerque is showing everyone how it should be done. They offer homeless people 5.5 hours of work a day at minimum wage to clean up the city. So far, homeless people have cleaned up over a quarter of a million pounds of rubbish. They have received paychecks and a number of other services in return. Seattle should wake up and quit being so stupid.

City Program Provides Dignity and Jobs to the Homeless — City of Albuquerque

 

[atsah]

So homeless people are now being paid to clean up there own trash? Any city I have been in I have seen the mess they make all by themselves..

I have seen areas that they take over, setup tarps for sleeping etc, the place looks like the city dump..

 

[Larry Caldwell]

So homeless people are now being paid to clean up there own trash? Any city I have been in I have seen the mess they make all by themselves..

I have seen areas that they take over, setup tarps for sleeping etc, the place looks like the city dump..

So then, do you want to live up to your *** in trash, or do you want to make things better? Revenge will only get you so far.

 

[HillStreet]

However it ends, we did it to ourselves.

 

[atsah]

So then, do you want to live up to your *** in trash, or do you want to make things better? Revenge will only get you so far.

No revenge at all, just stating a fact from what I have seen.. It doesn't really effect me because I wouldn't live anywhere near a place that looks like a waste management area.

Not all homeless people are as stupid as some might think, they will figure out if they trash a place they we be paid to clean it up..

Maybe they should have convicts clean it up and spend the money they pay the homeless people that they are only going to spend on drugs and alcohol on something to clean up the homeless problem..

Get the convicts off the internet, take the tv's away and put them to work, we are taking care of the convicts and not the homeless..

 

[dragoneggs]

No revenge at all, just stating a fact from what I have seen.. It doesn't really effect me because I wouldn't live anywhere near a place that looks like a waste management area.

Not all homeless people are as stupid as some might think, they will figure out if they trash a place they we be paid to clean it up..

Maybe they should have convicts clean it up and spend the money they pay the homeless people that they are only going to spend on drugs and alcohol on something to clean up the homeless problem..

Get the convicts off the internet, take the tv's away and put them to work, we are taking care of the convicts and not the homeless..

I’ve always believed that convicts should be paying their debt to society whether they sweep the streets, clean up parks, fix trails, maintain/mow common areas, plant stuff, etc.

Instead we fund their law degrees. Why we don’t teach them what is a true day’s work. 40hr per week like most of us that don’t break the law!

 

[goeduck]

I’ve always believed that convicts should be paying their debt to society whether they sweep the streets, clean up parks, fix trails, maintain/mow common areas, plant stuff, etc.

Instead we fund their law degrees. Why we don’t teach them what is a true day’s work. 40hr per week like most of us that don’t break the law!

Well said. Similar for the druggies on the street, they should work as in the Albuquerque link.

 

[ultrarunner]

Wall Street Journal has a story about corps leaving suburbia and moving back to cities...

Casualty of Cities’ Resurgence: The Suburban Offices Left Behind - WSJ

(I see the link requires a subscription to read all of it)