Is this a new tractor?

[Slowpoke Slim]

I have purchased two new Kubotas.

I have the dealer orders. I have the loan documents. Never does a tractor "year" appear.

There are hundreds of posts in the archive questioning compact tractor model years.
I have not read one post where the contributor could furnish a model year from tractor documents before them.

And what do I win if I can, Jeff?

:laughing:

 

[paulfun9]

I have purchased two new Kubotas.

I have the dealer orders. I have the loan documents. Never does a tractor "year" appear.

There are hundreds of posts in the archive questioning compact tractor model years.
I have not read one post where the contributor could furnish a model year from tractor documents before them.

For what it痴 worth my Kioti sales receipt has the year on it and it matches the serial number to every chart I have found. Some of my older machines did also. The myth about year doesn稚 matter for tractor sales has more to do with the used market and the erratic pricing due to condition and hours being more important than a specific year in most cases.. With this said offer me certain model years based on serial numbers and watch me run away with my money as I have a long list of years that parts are known to break and what year the redesigned part was fully in use on the new models.

My take on it is like everything else. It痴 your money and without there is no sale! So if having the correct year is important to you have them decipher the serial number for you, sign a statement with the year clearly defined or don稚 make the sale.

Stating the year doesn稚 matter because it痴 a tractor is just something many have been told to accept and that is wrong in my opinion.

 

[atsah]

Only problem with paying the same for the 2018 would be if they made changes to the 2019..

 

[ultrarunner]

Sometimes the previous model is more desirable... less emission equipment... metal vs composite… etc...

 

[atsah]

Sometimes the previous model is more desirable... less emission equipment... metal vs composite… etc...

True but there could also be improvements that someone might like on the newer model. Either way it's up to the buyer to research it.

 

[finn1]

Unless it痴 a totally new series, tractor and construction equipment manufacturers generally make running changes, rather than model year changes. In many, but not all cases, the running changes will coincide with holiday shutdown periods around Christmas or mid summer.

The tractor will have a tag with date of manufacture, along with the serial number, but that date doesn稚 tie into a particular model year in a legal sense.

Heavy trucks and other titled vehicles are a little different, but even there, model years don稚 necessarily coincide with calendar dates. Heavy trucks, for example, could have a given model year but an engine certified to an earlier standard if the engine was built in the prior year, to the old standards.

I am looking at possibly buying a used CTL. I asked the dealer what model year it was. He replied, as well he should, by giving me the equipment model and build date, with no reference to model year, since there isn稚 one.

Addendum: I happen to have the Deere CTL sales brochure that another dealer sent me sitting next to me. There is no mention of model year anywhere in the catalog. Just a Litho 18-04 (publication / revision date) for a current model CTL.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

I have purchased two new Kubotas.

I have the dealer orders. I have the loan documents. Never does a tractor "year" appear.

There are hundreds of posts in the archive questioning compact tractor model years.
I have not read one post where the contributor could furnish a model year from tractor documents before them.

I understand the concept of 'year' not meaning much except for determining if the model has changed. I disagree with the statement that the 'year' "never appears ".

ALL of my documents have the model 'year' (2017) and the hours when delivered. The serial number plate on the tractor has the model year stamped on it. My insurance company wanted the 'year' and the 'value'. They don't care about hours.

When i just recently thought about trading the tractor, the first question from the dealer was "what year is it and how many hours?". They look up the value in the "tractor blue book" which lists them by manufacturers and by year.

'Year' doesn't have the same impact in the tractor world as it does in the automotive world, but to say it doesn't matter is a fallacy and is incorrect!

 

[eubie5]

I understand the concept of 'year' not meaning much except for determining if the model has changed. I disagree with the statement that the 'year' "never appears ".

ALL of my documents have the model 'year' (2017) and the hours when delivered. The serial number plate on the tractor has the model year stamped on it. My insurance company wanted the 'year' and the 'value'. They don't care about hours.

When i just recently thought about trading the tractor, the first question from the dealer was "what year is it and how many hours?". They look up the value in the "tractor blue book" which lists them by manufacturers and by year.

'Year' doesn't have the same impact in the tractor world as it does in the automotive world, but to say it doesn't matter is a fallacy and is incorrect!

****, you were going to trade your LS? Getting something bigger or another brand. I looked at the LS partly based on some of your threads. Looks like a nice machine.

 

[Jstpssng]

Jeff is 100% correct on this, tractors do not have model years but do have date of manufacture tags on the various components. If a buyer thinks/expects otherwise then he hasn't done his homework.

See the same complaint on a boating forum from time to time -- someone will buy a 2019 model year boat and notice that the engine manufacture tag says October 2018 and act like they got duped. Outboard motors don't have model years either. Boats do have model years (matters because they get hull ID numbers and vessel titles) but boat makers model years don't coincide with the calendar year. This particular brand started making 2019 boats in July 2018, so it wouldn't even be possible to rig the "2019" boat with a "2019 manufacture" motor for at least 5-6 months if not longer. Outboard manufacturers make motors on their own production schedule and then crate them for future use.

Auto manufacturers also start dating their model years several months early. One of the best times to buy a car is in late September/early October, if you don't mind missing out on the latest and newest gimmicks- er, features. Otherwise this thread is much ado about nothing.

BTW, my paperwork does show the model year; but I bought my tractor used, 3 years old with 179 hours on it.

 

[Diggin It]

I know of one situation where production dates matters, even if not model year.

On earlier 125s, it's necessary to remove one rear wheel to install or remove the three point hitch assembly. On later models, they incorporated a change to make that unnecessary. I don't know for sure where the break is, but mine has the old system.